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The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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Lain catches a lot of flak in anime circles for being "edgy" or "deep for the sake of being deep" in that it tries too hard to be something thought provoking, but lacks any real substance. People still assign what they think the show is trying to say, but because the show is so abstract anything sticks.

I tend to agree with the above point, but it has been quite some time since I watched it. I wonder if a new personal perspective and rapidly changing tech landscape would change how I feel about it today.

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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It's interesting how two people can have diametrically opposite readings of the same piece of art.

I read the Wired as not less real than the real world, as the influence could flow in both directions, with events in one place causing effects in the other. The ultimate confirmation of that is the final scene, which was actually depicting Lain meeting her grown up school friend some 10 years later, while Lain stayed - timelessly - a child.

I once read a story which dealt with the lack of purpose in a world dominated by technology, where humans had nothing left to do, nowhere obvious to progress. The story presented an escape into tradition and slavery along with the progression into virtual reality, where new worlds could be built, shaped by the will of the participants as opposed to the hard rules of physics, therefore granting a whole set of new universes in which to search for meaning.

While we don't have fully fledged universes yet, we have gotten to various lengths along that road thanks to the Internet. Why should we say that experiences of the people who value their Internet goals more than the real world are invalid?

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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Serial experiments lain is my favorite anime of all time. I'm shocked at hoe obscure it continues to be, even in hacker circles. I figured that coding in lisp is all she needed for the show to become a cult classic - but here we are...

https://lainzine.org

(a Neocities site)

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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post #11

Lain catches a lot of flak in anime circles for being "edgy" or "deep for the sake of being deep" in that it tries too hard to be something thought provoking, but lacks any real substance. People still assign what they think the show is trying to say, but because the show is so abstract anything sticks. I tend to agree with the above point, but it has been quite some time since I watched it. I wonder if a new persona…

>"deep for the sake of being deep"

It is babies first philosophy: the anime. Nothing wrong with liking it, the problem comes when people think it is deeper than it actually is. It is quaint when viewed through current affairs, and much like the article, absolute thesaurus bait pretending to be something more.

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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Serial experiments lain is my favorite anime of all time. I'm shocked at hoe obscure it continues to be, even in hacker circles. I figured that coding in lisp is all she needed for the show to become a cult classic - but here we are...

>I figured that coding in lisp is all she needed for the show to become a cult classic - but here we are...

Style ain't substance.

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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There's a certain brooding, existential atmosphere and mystique to anime like Serial Experiments Lain, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Steins;Gate that really make them stand out and stick with you. Even if the show turned out to not be prescient at all, it would still be one of the top classics. Combined with the fact that it was, it's really something special.

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Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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post #12

It's interesting how two people can have diametrically opposite readings of the same piece of art. I read the Wired as not less real than the real world, as the influence could flow in both directions, with events in one place causing effects in the other. The ultimate confirmation of that is the final scene, which was actually depicting Lain meeting her grown up school friend some 10 years later, while Lain stayed -…

Never trust a "journalist," or anyone who uses the phrase "very online" to review anime in a meaningful way. I stayed away from Mob Psycho for ages because of nutty articles like this reading meaning and intention into it to a degree that would have made Freud blush. It's all just projection. To some people, everything has to be about preaching ideology, spreading their collection of neat, tidy just-so stories about how the world works. They can't just let the work speak for itself.

Glad to see this though, because it reminds me I should get around to finally trying Lain. Oh, and I highly recommend Mob Psycho as well.

Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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I thought this was a good article, but I wonder at the author's background. >her hardware expands to turn her bedroom into a dim, electrified jejunum I'd like to think I'm well read, but who the hell pulls "jejunum" out of their duodenum!

I assumed it was a reference to the protagonist's lack of maturity, as in jejune[2], but I admit I had to look up what the word actually meant. [2] https://www.thefreedictionary.com/jejune

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Re: The terrifyingly prescient ‘Serial Experiments Lain,’ 20 years later (2018)

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There's a certain brooding, existential atmosphere and mystique to anime like Serial Experiments Lain, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Steins;Gate that really make them stand out and stick with you. Even if the show turned out to not be prescient at all, it would still be one of the top classics. Combined with the fact that it was, it's really something special.

The weird thing is that Evangelion and Lain (and other stuff like them) came out in the early 2000s, and really fit that era. Steins;Gate came out in 2011, but feels like an early 2000s anime, in both visual style, writing, mood etc. I suppose that's somewhat fitting given the content of the show though.
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