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Ten years of OP-1

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Re: Ten years of OP-1

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> There are only so many ways to arrange three knobs and transport controls on a keyboard. You're joking right? There are thousands of combinations of where to put things to make a clone less obvious, but obviously they didn't care to do anything of that. Have you seen them compared side-by-side? It looks like a Mark 2 version of the Keystep, except some naming changed, here's an example: https://www.gearnews.com/wp-…

I have seen them, and I'm not joking. > There are thousands of combinations of where to put things to make a clone less obvious Disagree. This is like saying there are thousands of combinations of where to put doors on a car or volume controls on a phone. There are really only like one or two, and I doubt any of them are like, copyrightable. These are simple devices with simple features, not a single one which was in…

> I just don't get the outrage over this other than I think it comes from people who already hate Behringer.

Then you have your first counter-point here, because I don't have Behringer, I simply think some of their practices are shady. But no hate, and I have nothing against people who chose to buy their gear. I don't want to, because of their shady practices, but that doesn't mean I hate Behringer in total.

And no, if you have an arpeggiator on a midi keyboard, you don't have to place them in a different place than the Keystep. But if you have exactly the same features, and you put them in the same place, with a so similar design that consumer could be confused which one you have in front of you, then it starts getting into a territory that me myself, is not comfortable with.

If you remove the Arturia and and Behringer logo together with the text on the Swing, you think most people would accurately be able to separate which one is which? I think not, and that's when you're infringing on someones copyright.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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I've no problem with a company pricing a product to be what the market will bear. However, Teenage Engineering claiming they were jacking the price due to "supply issues" is just insulting.

I would have agreed with you, but sourcing OLED displays is a pain in the ass. I've been personally bitten by this. So, if they bought a 1000 obsolete displays and burned through them, it may actually take an act of God to get more. And you'll probably have to redesign your circuits.

Sure, but TE talked about the OP-1 as a 20 year project. The idea they paid the tooling costs for the body and then just slapped some remaindered displays on them stretches credulity.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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I bought an OP-1 end of 2012 and I love(d) it. I've since become big on repair, and right to repair, and the OP-1 is not only expensive, but almost impossible to repair due to lack of parts. One day I could not get it to the boot screen while holding the COM button any longer, and I emailed TE. They told me many years ago that since I didn't buy it from them, I could send it to them for a fee to look at it and then f…

EDIT:More parts available here:

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Teenage-Engineering-OP-1

But sadly still no motherboard/DSP to swap in...anybody else doing OP-1 repairs besides TE? I am going to try and sell it with full disclosure of its limitations caused by this.

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