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Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by 1cvmask »

afavour wrote: post #32

> There’s no evidence that the deal directly affects coverage in either the news or editorial departments. Before the Facebook News deal, the Times famously published an op-ed titled “It’s Time to Break Up Facebook,” by Chris Hughes, a cofounder of Facebook turned critic. And since the deal, columns from Tim Wu and Kara Swisher, among others, have been similarly critical. In December, the editorial board welcomed a l…

Miramax was over 10 percent of the ad spend in the NY Times in the early 2000s. They conveniently killed the story of Harvey Weinstein (head of Miramax) then:

https://www.thewrap.com/harvey-weinstein-new-york-times-bill...

Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by echelon »

Jonnax wrote: post #49
echelon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Isn’t Apple News+ the Spotify of newspapers? I'm not on an Apple platform and don't even know what this is. I suppose it works for Apple subscribers?

Then why not look it up?

I'm sorry if my tone didn't convey my meaning. I don't think an Apple service is an analog to a cross-platform, non-device manufacturer content aggregator.

Given Apple platform support on Android and Linux, I don't think it's something I'd find much value in. I'd be shocked if they even had an Android app. If they don't, the suggestion is a total non-starter.

I could be wrong, but based on previous experience, I'm probably not going to investigate until I hear my friends using Android talking about Apple News.

I'd like to see a Spotify for news. I saw that another comment mentioned Substack, which seems interesting and could be along those lines.

Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by corpMaverick »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #44

Let us be real, folks: - You are reading this comment. - You are likely highly or fairly paid. - You don’t pay for your news (to a partisan substack doesn’t count) Edit: Added likely to comment. Icing on the cake is if you consume almost all your news through Twitter / social media. Maybe stop clicking and reacting and instead stop and reflect your role in all this? Cold hard truth? We caused this problem, Facebook i…

Right. I would like to have Netflix for news. Pay $10 a month. And have access to NYT, NPR, The Economist et al. I want it to be easy to sign in and out.

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Post by 1cvmask »

adrian_mrd wrote: post #52
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech blogs are regularly bribed for good coverage, and tech companies are known for doing it. Nobody bloody cares about integrity of journalism. The Verge has historically been very favorable to Apple and Google. Why? They get exclusive interviews with Google and Apple executives. An interview with Sundar Pichai is worth millions in ad revenue, and if a blog is too critical of a company, they won't get interviews. Of…

This is what is referred to as ‘access journalism’ and indeed, it’s heavily prescient in technology - as it is in music, showbiz, sports, as well.

And politics and international coverage

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Post by crazygringo »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #42
afavour wrote: post #32

> There’s no evidence that the deal directly affects coverage in either the news or editorial departments. Before the Facebook News deal, the Times famously published an op-ed titled “It’s Time to Break Up Facebook,” by Chris Hughes, a cofounder of Facebook turned critic. And since the deal, columns from Tim Wu and Kara Swisher, among others, have been similarly critical. In December, the editorial board welcomed a l…

Tech blogs are regularly bribed for good coverage, and tech companies are known for doing it. Nobody bloody cares about integrity of journalism. The Verge has historically been very favorable to Apple and Google. Why? They get exclusive interviews with Google and Apple executives. An interview with Sundar Pichai is worth millions in ad revenue, and if a blog is too critical of a company, they won't get interviews. Of…

> Nobody bloody cares about integrity of journalism.

There's a gigantic difference between tech blogs and the NYT or WaPo.

Nobody expects tech blogs to exercise journalistic independence/integrity.

People do with the NYT and WaPo, and loudly cancel their subscriptions when the believe that's violated.

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Post by ds206 »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #44

Let us be real, folks: - You are reading this comment. - You are likely highly or fairly paid. - You don’t pay for your news (to a partisan substack doesn’t count) Edit: Added likely to comment. Icing on the cake is if you consume almost all your news through Twitter / social media. Maybe stop clicking and reacting and instead stop and reflect your role in all this? Cold hard truth? We caused this problem, Facebook i…

Why do you think substack doesn't count as paying for news?

Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by eli »

notlukesky wrote: post #37
resoluteteeth wrote: post #27

Accurate title: "Facebook is paying the New York Times for use of articles."

How about “Facebook is paying off the New York Times for protection articles”

Because there isn't evidence to support that headline

Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by airstrike »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #44

Let us be real, folks: - You are reading this comment. - You are likely highly or fairly paid. - You don’t pay for your news (to a partisan substack doesn’t count) Edit: Added likely to comment. Icing on the cake is if you consume almost all your news through Twitter / social media. Maybe stop clicking and reacting and instead stop and reflect your role in all this? Cold hard truth? We caused this problem, Facebook i…

What are my alternatives, really? Be part of the very small subset of NYT readers who actually pay for it and still have access to the virtually the exact same content? I'd rather pay for something fully paywalled like the WSJ
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