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Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by monkeybutton »

echelon wrote: post #5

I don't see how news is sustainable at current employment levels. Most papers cover the same stories from their own angle, but we don't need 1,000 duplicated takes. Social media bubbles headlines and links up from a potluck of sources, so there's no central paper to subscribe to and support. The end result is ad blocking everything, ignoring paywalls, and subscribing or paying no one. If I went to a paper's website i…

>The solution, sadly, seems to be mass culling and centralization. The world is connected and nobody needs local newspapers anymore.

We do need local papers though, large papers like the NY Times and WaPo aren't going to cover local politics or spend money on investigative journalism of issues that aren't (inter-)national.

Consolidation in the news industry is a boon for corruption everywhere.

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echelon wrote: post #5

I don't see how news is sustainable at current employment levels. Most papers cover the same stories from their own angle, but we don't need 1,000 duplicated takes. Social media bubbles headlines and links up from a potluck of sources, so there's no central paper to subscribe to and support. The end result is ad blocking everything, ignoring paywalls, and subscribing or paying no one. If I went to a paper's website i…

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Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by ghaff »

analognoise wrote: post #13
echelon wrote: post #5

I don't see how news is sustainable at current employment levels. Most papers cover the same stories from their own angle, but we don't need 1,000 duplicated takes. Social media bubbles headlines and links up from a potluck of sources, so there's no central paper to subscribe to and support. The end result is ad blocking everything, ignoring paywalls, and subscribing or paying no one. If I went to a paper's website i…

We absolutely need local papers, they're critical to uncovering the kind of small-town corruption that won't make the national news but still greatly impacts people. We can't seem to support this many journalists anymore - because FB and Google suck up the advertising revenue. Would breaking up big tech also bring back the local news room? That would be such a bonus.

>Would breaking up big tech also bring back the local news room?

For literally small-town (vs. smaller cities), local news has been an issue for decades.

Re: Facebook gives money to America’s biggest news organizations

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Post by chamanbuga »

1cvmask wrote: post #7

No surprise here. Two peas in a pod. The assault on independant journalists (e.g Substack), independant voices (e.g. Clubhouse) and others continues unabated by the likes of NY Times elitists like Taylor Lorenz. Corporate media like NY Times even covered the original 2004 Harvey Weinstein expose and regularly lies on so many internatonal issues as well. https://www.thewrap.com/harvey-weinstein-new-york-times-bill...…

The caliphate series was so well done. I instantly became a fan of Rukmini Callimachi. Then RCMP released that Abu Huzaifa's story was fabricated. It took NYT 2 years to admit their mistake and return their reward. The podcast was not amended nor was there any press release from Callimachi about this. This is when I ended my NYT subscription.

I still view NYT as excellent journalism, but with such questionable practices, that I am comfortable working around their pay wall instead of supporting them.

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

tediousdemise wrote: post #15
redisman wrote: post #3

Have you listened to any of their podcasts in the last 6 months? Their main ad is always some propaganda piece from Facebook

Not too long ago, Facebook took out a full page ad against Apple to gaslight consumers that anti-tracking was harming small business. This company is like a perforated colon that keeps leaking feces into the collective body of society. Pretty soon we'll go into septic shock.

Anti-tracking is harmful to all businesses who advertise, is it not?

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Post by echelon »

ghaff wrote: post #19
echelon wrote: post #5

I don't see how news is sustainable at current employment levels. Most papers cover the same stories from their own angle, but we don't need 1,000 duplicated takes. Social media bubbles headlines and links up from a potluck of sources, so there's no central paper to subscribe to and support. The end result is ad blocking everything, ignoring paywalls, and subscribing or paying no one. If I went to a paper's website i…

People have been talking about saving local news for more than 20 years. And the economics just don't work for the most part--whether in most cities or in smaller towns. I live in about a 7,000 person town. Let's say half the people would pay $20/year for a local paper--which we had at one point. That's wildly optimistic I know. Throw in some advertising. But I'm guessing you're still something under $100K/year. So y…

Exactly. I'll longbets anyone that downvoted me that we're going to see incredible consolidation and atrophy in the next ten years. It can't be stopped, and artificial means of preserving it won't work either as it no longer makes sense in the Internet age.

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Post by notlukesky »

stupendousyappi wrote: post #20
kgog wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like you drank the SV Kool Aid.

I mentally tune out anyone who uses the word "elitist". To me, it's one of the clearest signs that they're arguing using prejudices rather than evidence.

Taylor Lorenz attended a 90 thousand a year high school. Is that not elitist?

https://twitter.com/comfortablysmug/status/13696539131216773...

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