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Like the idea, but I'm confused how companies like: * Primer - Reach your leads everywhere * Andium - Digitizing the Oil & Gas Industry fit into the "problems like climate change and food insecurity" bucket.
Is there any way I can submit a job to this?
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Hi, Andium here. Definitely understand the skepticism about our work with the oil and gas industry and its impact on climate change. The high level is that the world doesn't know whether society has reached peak oil. Even if it has, oil consumption will continue to be a major contributor to planet warming gases (CO2 and CO2 equivalents) for decades to come. While regulation plays catch up and alternative energy usage…
To be honest, your homepage doesn't exactly give the impression you're a "saving the environment" company but rather you seem to be targeting businesses who wants to save costs. Here are some excerpts from your landing page ( https://andium.com/ ): - "At Andium, we’re saving companies millions of dollars annually, while increasing safety" - "we offer an ecosystem of automated products and services that provide the ne…
The challenge in selling to O&G companies is they don't really care about climate initiatives. They do have concerns but its not their bread and butter there fore you have to package your sell in other ways such as cost efficiency.
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Hi, Andium here. Definitely understand the skepticism about our work with the oil and gas industry and its impact on climate change. The high level is that the world doesn't know whether society has reached peak oil. Even if it has, oil consumption will continue to be a major contributor to planet warming gases (CO2 and CO2 equivalents) for decades to come. While regulation plays catch up and alternative energy usage…
To be honest, your homepage doesn't exactly give the impression you're a "saving the environment" company but rather you seem to be targeting businesses who wants to save costs. Here are some excerpts from your landing page ( https://andium.com/ ): - "At Andium, we’re saving companies millions of dollars annually, while increasing safety" - "we offer an ecosystem of automated products and services that provide the ne…
Like the idea, but I'm confused how companies like: * Primer - Reach your leads everywhere * Andium - Digitizing the Oil & Gas Industry fit into the "problems like climate change and food insecurity" bucket.
Hi, Andium here. Definitely understand the skepticism about our work with the oil and gas industry and its impact on climate change. The high level is that the world doesn't know whether society has reached peak oil. Even if it has, oil consumption will continue to be a major contributor to planet warming gases (CO2 and CO2 equivalents) for decades to come. While regulation plays catch up and alternative energy usage…
You might have a benefit to lowering the CI of each barrel minutely but really at the end of the day you are hurting the other industries that are trying to get a footing. That's why you are getting some negative feedback. Either through lack of knowledge of the history of the industry or intentionally painting a climate tech friendly perspective due to the new found interest at large of the general population / investing population.
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To be honest, your homepage doesn't exactly give the impression you're a "saving the environment" company but rather you seem to be targeting businesses who wants to save costs. Here are some excerpts from your landing page ( https://andium.com/ ): - "At Andium, we’re saving companies millions of dollars annually, while increasing safety" - "we offer an ecosystem of automated products and services that provide the ne…
I think realistically they are in the business of making O&G cheaper to extract through efficiencies that gain some climate merit (but very little). It's more like the limited climate benefit is an add-on to core business. The challenge in selling to O&G companies is they don't really care about climate initiatives. They do have concerns but its not their bread and butter there fore you have to package your sell in o…
Respectfully, this is not the business we are in, but I understand how our current messaging could convey it that way. That being said, there is a strong incentive to build products that both address climate pollution and reduce costs. It's a fine line and one that we think about constantly at the company.
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I think realistically they are in the business of making O&G cheaper to extract through efficiencies that gain some climate merit (but very little). It's more like the limited climate benefit is an add-on to core business. The challenge in selling to O&G companies is they don't really care about climate initiatives. They do have concerns but its not their bread and butter there fore you have to package your sell in o…
> I think realistically they are in the business of making O&G cheaper to extract through efficiencies that gain some climate merit (but very little). It's more like the limited climate benefit is an add-on to core business. Respectfully, this is not the business we are in, but I understand how our current messaging could convey it that way. That being said, there is a strong incentive to build products that both add…
The issue with this site is that someone in tech will inflate the ‘goodness’ of tech projects. I looked at a few companies and they’re hardly world changing. If your goal is doing good things you’d be far better off working at FAANG or investment banking and donating a % of your salary to proven effective organisations than bet on ‘digitising oil and gas’. 80,000 hours does this well https://80000hours.org/job-board/
Many of the jobs on the 80,000 hours board actually seem quite evil: "Research Scientist, AI. Facebook" "Data Scientist, Technology and Resource Investment Decision-making. US Government, Central Intelligence Agency" "Deep Learning Researcher, Computer Vision Algorithms. Baidu"
1. ML at Facebook and Baidu pay well so you could use that money to fund more effective things.
2. By working in these roles you have the ability to change how things are done. Certainly more than you usually could from the outside.
3. There's a big push in the effective altruism group on safe AI/ML. I disagree with this but that's a factor in their weightings.
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Hi, Andium here. Definitely understand the skepticism about our work with the oil and gas industry and its impact on climate change. The high level is that the world doesn't know whether society has reached peak oil. Even if it has, oil consumption will continue to be a major contributor to planet warming gases (CO2 and CO2 equivalents) for decades to come. While regulation plays catch up and alternative energy usage…
Thanks for the reply! Honest question, but doesn't enabling the Oil & Gas industries to reach peak effectiveness have the opposite effect? What I mean by this, O&G right now is highly ineffective and to fit into regulatory limit they need to downscale operations just to have a "reserve". By allowing them, for example, to monitor the Flare and other things, don't you actually allow them to increase the production beca…
The short answer is that nobody knows for sure ... yet. Regulatory bodies, NGOs, and ESG-focused activist and impact investors are actively developing frameworks and methodologies for total life cycle GHG accounting. [1] and [2] are a couple of examples in the US from around the time the Paris Climate Agreement was signed. This area is evolving quickly as momentum has built over the last few years for a global approach to getting to net-zero emissions. We keep a close eye on this and continuously evaluate the latest developments in the context of product development ideation.
[1] from 2016: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-03/documents...
[2] from 2015: https://www.eia.gov/conference/2015/pdf/presentations/skone....
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Many of the jobs on the 80,000 hours board actually seem quite evil: "Research Scientist, AI. Facebook" "Data Scientist, Technology and Resource Investment Decision-making. US Government, Central Intelligence Agency" "Deep Learning Researcher, Computer Vision Algorithms. Baidu"
So a few things here. 1. ML at Facebook and Baidu pay well so you could use that money to fund more effective things. 2. By working in these roles you have the ability to change how things are done. Certainly more than you usually could from the outside. 3. There's a big push in the effective altruism group on safe AI/ML. I disagree with this but that's a factor in their weightings.
Working at a company that does these things is no lesser evil in my book.
1: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-employ...
2: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/mqw86u/i_am_sophie_zh...