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Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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Judging by the comments the sentiment appears to be " In other news the sky is blue", but creating a narrative that's proven, conclusive, and thorough and reinforces what we already knew has substantial value for those of us that don't rely on generalities of the human condition.

This book serves as a canary in the coal mine if drastic action isn't taken at a global scale to reduce inequality.

Given the advancement of technology as it relates to war, WWIII has the potential to be catastrophic to the human race.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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To summarize, inequality is reduced when labor becomes more valuable or when everyone becomes poor. A good argument for why reducing inequality has problems as an objective.

That's quite a poor summary.

What would you add?

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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Basic income is the only way to break this cycle perhaps?

Maybe. But for a country the size of the U.S. this would cost the entire country an additional $2.4 trillion. One of its primary effect in developed countries might be on rent, especially in rural areas.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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post #13

Judging by the comments the sentiment appears to be " In other news the sky is blue", but creating a narrative that's proven, conclusive, and thorough and reinforces what we already knew has substantial value for those of us that don't rely on generalities of the human condition. This book serves as a canary in the coal mine if drastic action isn't taken at a global scale to reduce inequality. Given the advancement o…

This phenomenon has been known and crystallised in research for a long time, but also has been talked about for even longer. At this point what is true as anything is that it doesn't really matter how accurate your results are, the economic system not changing has nothing to do with a lack of a correct answer.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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Is there any evidence that a society can function without inequality? Equality would have to be enforced, and unless that enforcement was done by self-maintaining automatons, I don't see how it persists. Perhaps a cycle of catastrophe and rebuilding is necessary to maintain a functioning society, in which case, the question of what constitutes a minimal viable catastrophe that accomplishes that goal becomes interesting.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's quite a poor summary.

What would you add?

Personally there's nothing I could add that would fix this, it has to be scrapped. Financial equality is not about making everyone poorer (more realistically it just makes a small group poorer), and also labour becoming less valuable is a consequence that can simply be fixed by distributing wealth to those who lost their jobs, not by trying to force labour to become more valuable.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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In essence, the argument is that when half of the population die, leaving their possessions, then inequality reduces. It's not surprising.

But to prove that there is a strong correlation we need to show that peacetime leads to greater inequality. And I don't think it's true.

Re: Stanford: A grim correlation between violence and inequality

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Is there any evidence that a society can function without inequality? Equality would have to be enforced, and unless that enforcement was done by self-maintaining automatons, I don't see how it persists. Perhaps a cycle of catastrophe and rebuilding is necessary to maintain a functioning society, in which case, the question of what constitutes a minimal viable catastrophe that accomplishes that goal becomes interesti…

I believe primitive agrarian societies had very little inequality but I could be wrong.
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