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Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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There’s some good advice here on sleep, exercise etc. which is likely to start being helpful straight away. The impact of exercise can be especially quick. But for me starting therapy provided a way to address the reasons behind the chronic stress in the first place. For example, it might be worth asking yourself why you feel guilt when you take time to rest.

I used to not believe in therapy because of the two sessions I had in the past, but it has started to sound like the way to go when I realized they were probably just bad therapists. I did reach out to a psychotherapist I know. Unfortunately, it’s a conflict of interest or something because I know her? I gave up after that, but will definitely go that route if things get worse or I come across someone reputable.

EDIT: Am I supposed to add this edit section on HN? I forgot to mention why I think I feel guilt. I think it’s because I’m not hitting my timeline and there’s no money coming in. The lack of income is by choice though. I wanted to build out and polish a product I know clients will pay for, but it’s not coming together fast enough. So taking time off when I’m “behind” just feels terrible.

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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I shake my feet and repeat the same sentence over and over in my head until I fall asleep. It’s the only form of meditation that overwhelms my bullshit thoughts.

Funnily enough this resonates with me a lot. I definitely suffer from overthinking. This one time I saw a pregnant woman get pepper sprayed during the HK protests on Reddit and was so mad I couldn’t sleep till 3 am. I’m not Chinese and I know there’s nothing significant I can do about what happened, but things like that stick with me for way too long. Long enough for me to bring it up now and I don’t know how to handle it sometimes.

What does the feet shaking do for you?

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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I recently had a stressful job last year in an environment where I had no control: COVID plus military deployment. My blood pressure dropped 40 points once I left that job. Here are things that helped me and my staff:

* See a mental health professional

* Exercise

* Eat healthy (I was failing here and stress eating thereby making things worse)

* Social reinforcement. Have friends offline to talk things through

* Spend time on things of interest and be productive

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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Three most important things for reducing stress: 1. Sleep 2. Diet 3. Resilience

You can improve them with the below:

* Start monitoring your heart rate variability (HRV). You can use HRV to help you understand the triggers for your stress. There’s loads of articles on the web about it. I monitor HRV through the night with Oura ring. Low usually means you are stressed or not recovered.

* Try to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time every day. This is incredibly important and really works.

* If you struggle sleeping, use blue light blocking glasses and try to not use screens which emit blue light after sundown. Also try to get exposure to morning light everyday.

* Don’t eat at least 3 hours before bed!!

* Have your last alcoholic drink 3-4 hours before bed. Don’t drink a lot or cut it out entirely.

* Ensure you remain hydrated throughout the day

* If you can, take cold showers

* Try to meditate for 10-15 mins a day

* Make sure you start relaxing a few hours before bed

* Very important: Try to only eat whole foods. No sugar. No refined carbs. Lots of vegetables. Food has a massive impact on stress levels.

* Eating food you are intolerant to will increase your stress levels. Keep a rough diary of what you eat. If something makes you feel a bit off then make a note and try to narrow down what good it was. Once you know what it is... stop eating that food. You can gradually reintroduce with experiments.

* Exercise is good for stress reduction and resilience. Go running or cycling but.... This is very important: you NEED to monitor your heart rate. If you are not fit or new to exercise then you don’t want to go over 140 bpm. Eg I’ve been running since I was 10 and 80% of my runs are done at 145bpm. I rarely go over 170 bpm because it stresses the body a lot. If you are out of breath then you need to stop or walk. If you keep doing this you will get faster as the same HR (if you care!).

* Don’t read or watch the news.

* Go and sit in a park. Green spaces like parks help to reduce stress. Good luck dude!

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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Leftfield, but I recommend a book “the rock warrior’s way”. It is about mental training for climbers... which is all about facing uncontrollably hard, unpredictable and potentially dangerous situations, and thriving in them.

As well as other suggestions in this thread, some that the book might suggest would include:

- embrace what you cannot control. You cannot control it any more for mentally grappling with it. Instead, build a mindset of being OK living with adversity.

- think of your life as choices, not responses to unavoidable. Sure, life forces us to do things. But really we do have choices, just we don’t like them. You could quit your job and do nothing, and run out of money. It’s not life forcing you to work, it’s you choosing to be employed. You’re choosing the best option for you, not the only one.

- learn to recognise the fight or flight instinct. It is rarely a good advisor, and with training, you can see through it. Quite often things are not as bleak as our mind paints it.

- build goals that you achievable in your current adversity. Make it about something you learn, about yourself or the world or your area of expertise etc. It makes the problem be on your terms, with achievable success, and not indentured slavery.

I know it sounds a bit like magical thinking, but I confirm it works, for both life and climbing.

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if you want to get better sleep

Thankfully I don’t have trouble sleeping. I can’t imagine how miserable I’d be otherwise.

Are you sure you actually sleep well? Not trying to wind you up but usually if people sleep well they can handle stress much better - sleep builds resilience for us. I'd try a "good" sleep tracker if you don't already have one to see how performant your sleep actually is. If your sleep _is_ good then I would focus on improving resilience through meditation, exercise and mindfulness (live in the moment, recognise you cannot control some situations etc). Cheers

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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Muscle relaxation exercises can be very helpful. Doesn't need to take long (after doing it for a while). Can be customized to the situation and target your 'problem areas'. "Learning to systematically relax the muscles in your body will keep you better equipped to deal with your day to day challenges." https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-to-do-muscle-relaxation-e...

Yeah? I came straight here because the top results I saw were recommending stuff like Tai Chi. Not that there’s anything wrong with exercising, yoga, or the like, it just doesn’t feel like a physical problem. I will try walking, but I still think it might be more of a mental issue.

There's barely any separation between physical and mental in this way. If you persist with mental issues without fixing them, you will get physical problems. If you're doing really well physically, it will to some extent assist with your mental health.

That said, you can always do both :)

Re: Ask HN: Tips for handling chronic stess?

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Have you ever had a couple of sleepless nights in a row? Do you remember how tired, unproductive you were? In that state, would you rather exercise/sunbath/eat healthier/...? No, you would go sleep. The next day, you'll feel much better and then you would apply all those good advice.

It is neither good nor bad that you need to rest (mentally or physically), it's just how your body and mind function. Blaming yourself, adding judgement in this won't help, quite the contrary. Sometimes we have energy and we go forward, sometimes we're all stressed out, not feeling well, tired, you name it, and we need to rest. We all have theses cycles, only their duration and intensity varies for each person and it's totally okay. You are legitimate in needing some time off to feel better, the sooner you take some the sooner you'll be able to function again.

Don't put rigor and severity in this but rather self love. Have empathy for yourself in the same way you would if you saw a child in this condition. That's for the immediate term, but in the long run there's no better advice than to see a mental health professional. No book, no youtube video, no HN comment will equal the benefits of professional accompaniment.

Edit: resting can take many shapes. Sleeping, temporarily isolating yourself from your family, practicing an activity you enjoy, traveling, etc. Authorize yourself to do what you want to do without any "I should" / "I shouldn't" judgement.

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