- Yesterday: Huawei eavesdropped on a foreign telecom!
- Today: Huawei could have eavesdropped on a foreign telecom.
- Tomorrow: Huawei didn't eavesdrop on a foreign telecom. Imagine if they did though. Chills.
I'm so over this.
Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
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#22NSA tapped German Chancellery for decades, WikiLeaks claims : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-g... Supposedly, that did actually happen.
Everyone spies on everyone[1][2][3] - that's why everyone's government buildings all have their own secure-rooms. The diplomatic thing is to not go-public about ones' allies doing it unless you have a reason to embarrass them for something else.
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/opinions/france-spy-claims
[2] https://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/marco-rubio-nsa-spyin...
[3] https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-10-...
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#23I dunno how newsworthy the "Huawei" part of this is. The options seem to be go with a local provider or accept some level of risk of exfiltrated data. For example, nobody is pretending that Cisco is trustworthy. I'm sure the Chinese spies made off with some stuff that they shouldn't have because they'd be stupid not to - but if anything this sounds so brazen that I assume the access was mostly for routine tech suppor…
> I dunno how newsworthy the "Huawei" part of this is.
Actually, it's very fashionable to suspect Huawei of whatever, and ban them from doing whatever.
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#24Why do we need Chinese technologies in Europe again?
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#25NSA tapped German Chancellery for decades, WikiLeaks claims : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-g... Supposedly, that did actually happen.
It did happen.
But it's not really news that spy agencies spy. Although maybe a little bit that NSA was spying on Germans, but that's probably not really news either, even for the Germans.
But if a private corp. doing contract work for another entity spies - and when the ownership of that corp is tied the government - that's news.
The question marks as to whether this was merely 'Huawei as admins have access' or 'Huawei has access and abused it' ... is the high relevant issue that needs to be fully sorted out.
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#26NSA tapped German Chancellery for decades, WikiLeaks claims : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-g... Supposedly, that did actually happen.
i would suggest that german telecoms not contract their mobile network deployment and management to nsa, then
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#27NSA tapped German Chancellery for decades, WikiLeaks claims : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-g... Supposedly, that did actually happen.
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#28- Yesterday: Huawei eavesdropped on a foreign telecom! - Today: Huawei could have eavesdropped on a foreign telecom. - Tomorrow: Huawei didn't eavesdrop on a foreign telecom. Imagine if they did though. Chills. I'm so over this.
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Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#29The spin on this situation is dumb. What it amounts to is that KPN hired Huawei on a contract basis to administer its equipment, and as a result those contract administrators had... administrator privileges on the Huawei equipment. Now, obviously telco equipment can be used for spying, but there's absolutely no allegation of wrongdoing here at all. If there is any finger to point, it's at KPN for hiring an untrusted…
> for hiring an untrusted contractor So you agree Huawei cannot be trusted. I think that is the whole point of the discussion.
Not OP, but must probably this is just part of the anti-China propaganda , I think it started with the false accusations from Bloomberg... so I expect that any Huawei related news is false until some actual evidence is presented to the police or something.
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#30The spin on this situation is dumb. What it amounts to is that KPN hired Huawei on a contract basis to administer its equipment, and as a result those contract administrators had... administrator privileges on the Huawei equipment. Now, obviously telco equipment can be used for spying, but there's absolutely no allegation of wrongdoing here at all. If there is any finger to point, it's at KPN for hiring an untrusted…
> for hiring an untrusted contractor So you agree Huawei cannot be trusted. I think that is the whole point of the discussion.
You shouldn't trust any provider under the jurisdiction of an anti-liberty nation-state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
Not sure why Huawei is unique here.