Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
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#2I could have hacked the electric grid. Just cause someone could have done something doesn't mean that they did. This is pandering to political bias.
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#3This article contains no new revelations on top of previous articles:
"Huawei’s says it never acted inappropriately by abusing its position in the Netherlands. KPN says in a response that it has no indications that lines were tapped or that customer data was stolen."
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#4I could have hacked the electric grid. Just cause someone could have done something doesn't mean that they did. This is pandering to political bias.
Depending on what you mean by 'hacked' that's still newsworthy.
In this article 'wiretapped' means that they had uncontrolled and unlimited access to all conversations. The problem isn't so much that it could have happened but that it might have happened.
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#5The spin on this situation is dumb. What it amounts to is that KPN hired Huawei on a contract basis to administer its equipment, and as a result those contract administrators had... administrator privileges on the Huawei equipment. Now, obviously telco equipment can be used for spying, but there's absolutely no allegation of wrongdoing here at all.
If there is any finger to point, it's at KPN for hiring an untrusted contractor and giving them sensitive access.
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#6The spin on this situation is dumb. What it amounts to is that KPN hired Huawei on a contract basis to administer its equipment, and as a result those contract administrators had... administrator privileges on the Huawei equipment. Now, obviously telco equipment can be used for spying, but there's absolutely no allegation of wrongdoing here at all. If there is any finger to point, it's at KPN for hiring an untrusted…
> for hiring an untrusted contractor
So you agree Huawei cannot be trusted. I think that is the whole point of the discussion.
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#7Original title : Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
Dupe : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26842733 ( 65 comments )
Re: Huawei was able to eavesdrop on Dutch mobile network KPN: Report
#8The spin on this situation is dumb. What it amounts to is that KPN hired Huawei on a contract basis to administer its equipment, and as a result those contract administrators had... administrator privileges on the Huawei equipment. Now, obviously telco equipment can be used for spying, but there's absolutely no allegation of wrongdoing here at all. If there is any finger to point, it's at KPN for hiring an untrusted…
Even if they are at fault for not doing their due diligence that doesn't remove the fault of someone spying
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#9I dunno how newsworthy the "Huawei" part of this is. The options seem to be go with a local provider or accept some level of risk of exfiltrated data. For example, nobody is pretending that Cisco is trustworthy.
I'm sure the Chinese spies made off with some stuff that they shouldn't have because they'd be stupid not to - but if anything this sounds so brazen that I assume the access was mostly for routine tech support. KPN clearly needs some help with their IT.
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#10So there is no story, but a potential story on a potential (fill in the blanks)
So you outsourced some services as many companies do and failed to keep tabs on it, just like many companies do.
Forgetting to audit outsourced work is extremely prevalent.
A report by Capgemini, a leading Western supplier for outsourced personnel to telecommuncations companies. No conflict of interest there.