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China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are proposing New IP system that requires people to register with their real ID in order to use the internet anywhere, not just in China. That’s pretty dystopian in my book.

You have to verify your ID or drivers license to get a SIM in Switzerland

Same in Germany. Different in NL though, or at least last I checked two years ago.

Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are proposing New IP system that requires people to register with their real ID in order to use the internet anywhere, not just in China. That’s pretty dystopian in my book.

You have to verify your ID or drivers license to get a SIM in Switzerland

Do you also have to put your ID in to go browse WiFi in a nearby coffee shop?

There’s plenty of ways to browse internet anonymously in Switzerland.

Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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This is a hilarious scaremongering article written for those who are clueless. No surprise as it turns out it is from the comically named neocon outfit Foundation for the Defense of Democracies which is the most bellicose warmongering think tank in DC. They never met a poor third world country that they didn’t want bombed. As for 6G the reason we have no leadership is that Lucent was run into the ground by a mindset…

> We forced the world after 9/11 to block anonymous Internet.

This is just wrong. Whenever I travel I just get a 30 day or so SIM card. They've available everywhere. Not to mention WIFI access points here and there, e.g. at hotels, coffee shops etc.

Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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post #9

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Here is the "/s" you missed.

Honestly, it's a little of both. There are loud groups of people online that will be fine with this kind of logic. In fact there is a good number of those individuals right here on HN. Essentially I outlined what their talking points will be. At the same time, I'm tired of arguing for rights. I'm partially willing to let people burn the system to the ground to prove how right they are with removing rights from those…

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Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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post #2

This is a hilarious scaremongering article written for those who are clueless. No surprise as it turns out it is from the comically named neocon outfit Foundation for the Defense of Democracies which is the most bellicose warmongering think tank in DC. They never met a poor third world country that they didn’t want bombed. As for 6G the reason we have no leadership is that Lucent was run into the ground by a mindset…

> We forced the world after 9/11 to block anonymous Internet. You cannot get Internet anywhere without ID.

This is clearly false here in Canada. Open and free Wifi is everywhere, and you can purchase sims with cash and no id.

Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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post #2

This is a hilarious scaremongering article written for those who are clueless. No surprise as it turns out it is from the comically named neocon outfit Foundation for the Defense of Democracies which is the most bellicose warmongering think tank in DC. They never met a poor third world country that they didn’t want bombed. As for 6G the reason we have no leadership is that Lucent was run into the ground by a mindset…

snippet from link to author link: Theo Lebryk is an intern at the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He is also a Yenching Scholar at Peking University, where he is pursuing a Master’s in China Studies. His research focuses on media in China. He previously graduated from Harvard University with a joint concentration in Social Studies and East Asian Studies and a mi…

Whoohoo! downvoted because i stated an opinion after a synopsis of an author (a fact).

Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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I am some what confused by this being called dystopian. As more and more Westerners call for people being canceled due to a small but vocal minority on Twitter and other platforms, wouldn't this design play right into that? Rather than wasting time defending Twitter, the reasonable social justice warrior would simply petition the sympathetic State functionary to flip the bad-person's Internet connectivity. For exampl…

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Re: China’s Dystopian “New IP” Plan for a New Internet

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I wonder is it possible to isolate a whole country from the rest of the Internet? There are so many services in China that are almost exclusive to people with a Chinese phone number and a WeChat / Alipay account. That sealing the rest of the Internet does not affect Chinese residents using those services.
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