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Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#91
Squad was an interesting search term in a disappointing way. The results are something related to soccer except for the far right. Searching Black Lives Matter produced mostly right leaning complaints, which I guess isn’t surprising.

I was having trouble thinking of things to search that didn’t produce unbalanced results.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#92
interesting idea, but implementation is all sorts of weird, the scale of left and right is unclear, and more importantly changes from one search to another, instead of having vague terms like leaning left and right, you could put logos of different medias on that scale, and let your readers compare different articles to each other, so you would get some fresh data

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#93
I think the degree of left/right is influenced by the makers of the rating API and I don't like it. Notice how there are several sights near the "right" but very few beyond "skews left" (at least for the search term "Biden"). I would rather divide it evenly into 2 categories left / right and maybe add some further categories like establishment / non-establishment.

Make categories that are invariant to political alignment. This continuous line is not.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#95
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that mostly shows the limits of their analysis. The Guardian is basically the left-wing paper in the UK; I don't think there's anything to the left of them outside of fairly fringe, niche, and very fragmented publications. Internal disputes within the left play out within their comment section, whilst the news section often seems to attacking the right wing as its main goal.

I see that CNN is in the middle-of-the-road section. Search 'Trump' (naturally, it's currently the best test case) and you get: "Former President Donald Trump repeated familiar lies about the 2020 election and insulted Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell Saturday when speaking to Republican National Committee donors gathered for the first time since Trump’s defeat, a person in the room told CNN." 'familiar lies' '…

... What would the proper ultra-centrist way of characterising lying and insulting Mitch McConnell be? Like, are you expecting them to use euphemisms, or just not reporting on former presidents lying?

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#97
post #93

I think the degree of left/right is influenced by the makers of the rating API and I don't like it. Notice how there are several sights near the "right" but very few beyond "skews left" (at least for the search term "Biden"). I would rather divide it evenly into 2 categories left / right and maybe add some further categories like establishment / non-establishment. Make categories that are invariant to political align…

Articially normalizing the spectrum seems even worse from an editorial perspective.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#98
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ITYM they banned people for posting content encouraging violence and harassment, violating the terms of service. It just so happened that some large conservative subs were engaging in that behavior. Curious, isn't it?

They banned quite a but more than that. * Bans for mentioning a news article that mentioned the site of Hunter Biden's laptop leak. * Bans for disagreeing with the mask policies. * Bans for posting COVID-19 studies that are different than what is mainstream. * Bans for posting articles of a politician that is also an admin. * Bans for discussing election fraud. * Bans for upvoting content. The place has turned toxic.

Not really a great advert for the intellectual heft of the right wing

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#99
post #93

I think the degree of left/right is influenced by the makers of the rating API and I don't like it. Notice how there are several sights near the "right" but very few beyond "skews left" (at least for the search term "Biden"). I would rather divide it evenly into 2 categories left / right and maybe add some further categories like establishment / non-establishment. Make categories that are invariant to political align…

Articially normalizing the spectrum seems even worse from an editorial perspective.

No. It is disciplined. A good editor would know their subjective biases would disqualify them from knowing precisely where the middle is.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

#100
That's a pretty nice thing you did here, but i'm questioned by what you call "left". Left means abolition of private property (sharing of resources) so i was expecting more left-wing publications like (just to name a few) crimethinc.com unicornriot.ninja itsgoingdown.org theantimedia.com. Some like jacobinmag.com or democracynow.org appear on the project's README but i don't find anything from there on the site.

Is there a place detailing the data sources for their.news if it's different than the adfontesmedia list? Also for people not aware that list itself was very sketchy in my view. From another comment of mine:

> Sometimes i read articles from Jacobin Mag. I don’t follow it and don’t support it, however it pops up sometimes in my “feeds”. I was surprised to see it marked as really unreliable, while all articles i read there were long-form well-sourced articles. In particular, this article about US military courts is marked as highly unreliable, why? https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/us-armed-forces-capitol-hill-...

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