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Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by Nextgrid »

clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

If your objective is to use two monitors side by side, couldn't you find a device that presents itself as an ultra-wide monitor (combined width of both monitors) and allows you to connect two monitors on the other end?

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by TwoNineA »

throw14082020 wrote: post #9
bhouston wrote: post #5

I am using a MacMini M1 as my main development machine specifically to get around the single monitor limitation of the first gen M1 laptops. It is cheaper than a MacBook Pro as well, so it is a win all around. Edit: I do use one HDMI and one display port (from a USB c connector.) I drive both 4K monitors at a full 60hz. It is beautiful.

Its not a real win because you're using 1 HDMI, 1 usb-c display. The HDMI display is limited (low framerate, bad integration with the display). At best i call it a workaround

I got 2 LG 4k monitors plugged into my Mac Mini M1, one USB-C (43 inch), and one HDMI (27 inch rotated). In both cases the Mac runs them at 60 hz, the 43 inch slightly scaled and the 27 inch around 1440p scaling. If I put them at full resolution (unscaled) they still run at 60hz.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by tyingq »

I wonder how well the litany of terrible apps that you typically have to run in a corporate environment are doing on M1s.

Things like Cisco's Anyconnect VPN, MS Teams, Active Directory Auth, and so on.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by edgan »

I just got a new System76 laptop for work. I have used to Lenovo P Series in the past. The System76 laptop has a Nvidia GPU. For ports it has HDMI and Mini DisplayPort. I was expecting dual 4k@60hz to work, but instead got 4k@60hz via the Mini DisplayPort and 40@30hz via the HDMI. The reason is the HDMI is tied to the Intel GPU, not the Nvidia GPU.

The laptop also lacks Thunderbolt, which would provide more port options.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by f6v »

M1 is such a smooth ride. I didn’t expect everything would just work. I use R and Python for computational biology and didn’t have a single issue with installing packages.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by edgan »

TwoNineA wrote: post #12
throw14082020 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not a real win because you're using 1 HDMI, 1 usb-c display. The HDMI display is limited (low framerate, bad integration with the display). At best i call it a workaround

I got 2 LG 4k monitors plugged into my Mac Mini M1, one USB-C (43 inch), and one HDMI (27 inch rotated). In both cases the Mac runs them at 60 hz, the 43 inch slightly scaled and the 27 inch around 1440p scaling. If I put them at full resolution (unscaled) they still run at 60hz.

I think you mean Thunderbolt not USB-C. Thunderbolt ties into the GPU, but USB-C doesn't.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by kelchm »

edgan wrote: post #16
TwoNineA wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 2 LG 4k monitors plugged into my Mac Mini M1, one USB-C (43 inch), and one HDMI (27 inch rotated). In both cases the Mac runs them at 60 hz, the 43 inch slightly scaled and the 27 inch around 1440p scaling. If I put them at full resolution (unscaled) they still run at 60hz.

I think you mean Thunderbolt not USB-C. Thunderbolt ties into the GPU, but USB-C doesn't.

USB-C is simply the connector format -- which can then be used as either USB 4 or Thunderbolt 3. The highest speed USB 4 devices are effectively the same as Thunderbolt 3 from what I understand.

I really do sympathize with any consumer who has to try to make sense of what a given port is actually capable of these days.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by Telemakhos »

tyingq wrote: post #13

I wonder how well the litany of terrible apps that you typically have to run in a corporate environment are doing on M1s. Things like Cisco's Anyconnect VPN, MS Teams, Active Directory Auth, and so on.

MS Teams runs beautifully on my M1. Cisco Anyconnect now installs a bunch of network filters instead of a single kext, but it works. The only programs that run poorly are Apple's own Mail app (often hangs on quit) and Safari (has crashed the whole Mac a few times).

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by bhouston »

edgan wrote: post #16
TwoNineA wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got 2 LG 4k monitors plugged into my Mac Mini M1, one USB-C (43 inch), and one HDMI (27 inch rotated). In both cases the Mac runs them at 60 hz, the 43 inch slightly scaled and the 27 inch around 1440p scaling. If I put them at full resolution (unscaled) they still run at 60hz.

I think you mean Thunderbolt not USB-C. Thunderbolt ties into the GPU, but USB-C doesn't.

I am confused generally. My old Dell xps 13 didn’t have thunderbolt but I could still use the exact same USB c to display port cable that I used on my Mac mini.

I am unsure if you need thunderbolt specifically to use USB c to display port cables. It seems you do not need thunderbolt but I am not an expert.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by FroshKiller »

misnome wrote: post #8
clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

Yes, very silent. We ordered a replacement for my old work machine and only realised that limitation after - too slow to stop the purchase order. We’ve ordered an ultrawide monitor to compensate. I feel the “Pro” label is somewhat misleading, and has definitely damaged my trust further.

The specs page for the Pro on Apple's site was up front about this and still is. Check it out here: https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/

Scroll down to Video Support and see: "One external display with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz."

When I was making a buying decision back in November, the limited external display support came up in every analysis & review I read. I'm not trying to give you a hard time here, but I genuinely don't know how you missed this.

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