Onboarding with an M1

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Post by ingve » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 10:48 AM UTC

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by clashmoore » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:37 AM UTC

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation.

It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain.

I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see articles about M1’s and developer setups I happily check in to see if anybody has found a setup.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by random5634 » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:39 AM UTC

Also commenting on single monitor support - a key note I missed from original reviews and maybe a reason to wait till more pro models come out?

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by Closi » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:42 AM UTC

clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

Agreed, as an M1 user and usual multi monitor user this is a big limitation!

Realistically I’ll look at investing in an ultra wide soon to offer similar screen real estate.

We also have a Lenovo laptop that we bought two of for our admin staff in our office to only find out afterwards multi monitor support was missing (despite having enough ports for it)... it’s a shame that this isn’t considered standard.

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Post by bhouston » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:51 AM UTC

I am using a MacMini M1 as my main development machine specifically to get around the single monitor limitation of the first gen M1 laptops. It is cheaper than a MacBook Pro as well, so it is a win all around.

Edit: I do use one HDMI and one display port (from a USB c connector.) I drive both 4K monitors at a full 60hz. It is beautiful.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by MobileVet » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 11:56 AM UTC

Closi wrote: post #4

clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

Agreed, as an M1 user and usual multi monitor user this is a big limitation! Realistically I’ll look at investing in an ultra wide soon to offer similar screen real estate. We also have a Lenovo laptop that we bought two of for our admin staff in our office to only find out afterwards multi monitor support was missing (despite having enough ports for it)... it’s a shame that this isn’t considered standard.

This was such a pain... we tried several combos and dongles. In the end we found this to work for driving the 2nd monitor.

Startech Dual Display Port adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C69HG33/

We have noticed that the refresh rate on the second monitor isn’t great... but it works and isn’t horrible for developers.

Edit: and we also have this due to the lack of ports (Thanks Jony)

HyeperDrive USB C Hub https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUAEI7J/

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by rainbowzootsuit » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 12:03 PM UTC

Closi wrote: post #4

clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

Agreed, as an M1 user and usual multi monitor user this is a big limitation! Realistically I’ll look at investing in an ultra wide soon to offer similar screen real estate. We also have a Lenovo laptop that we bought two of for our admin staff in our office to only find out afterwards multi monitor support was missing (despite having enough ports for it)... it’s a shame that this isn’t considered standard.

Perhaps a EGPU via thunderbolt would work? (Not that GPUs are so readily available right now, but just to get N monitor ports as needed offloaded) Have you investigated that at all?

I recently ran into something somewhat similar of needing "active" displayport adapters to connect more than two monitors at a time to a video card.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by misnome » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 12:05 PM UTC

clashmoore wrote: post #2

As mentioned in the epilogue regarding single monitors, I feel that Apple was a little too silent regarding that limitation. It also caught me off guard especially as I purchased the LG 4K thunderbolt/usb-c monitors from the Apple website with the hope of connecting everything via daisy chain. I haven’t yet definitively found a DisplayLink hub that can output its video via thunderbolt and/or USB-C so whenever I see a…

Yes, very silent. We ordered a replacement for my old work machine and only realised that limitation after - too slow to stop the purchase order. We’ve ordered an ultrawide monitor to compensate.

I feel the “Pro” label is somewhat misleading, and has definitely damaged my trust further.

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by throw14082020 » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 12:07 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #5

I am using a MacMini M1 as my main development machine specifically to get around the single monitor limitation of the first gen M1 laptops. It is cheaper than a MacBook Pro as well, so it is a win all around. Edit: I do use one HDMI and one display port (from a USB c connector.) I drive both 4K monitors at a full 60hz. It is beautiful.

Its not a real win because you're using 1 HDMI, 1 usb-c display. The HDMI display is limited (low framerate, bad integration with the display). At best i call it a workaround

Re: Onboarding with an M1

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Post by FroshKiller » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 12:19 PM UTC

rainbowzootsuit wrote: post #7

Closi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, as an M1 user and usual multi monitor user this is a big limitation! Realistically I’ll look at investing in an ultra wide soon to offer similar screen real estate. We also have a Lenovo laptop that we bought two of for our admin staff in our office to only find out afterwards multi monitor support was missing (despite having enough ports for it)... it’s a shame that this isn’t considered standard.

Perhaps a EGPU via thunderbolt would work? (Not that GPUs are so readily available right now, but just to get N monitor ports as needed offloaded) Have you investigated that at all? I recently ran into something somewhat similar of needing "active" displayport adapters to connect more than two monitors at a time to a video card.

M1 Macs do not support eGPUs.