U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crackdown

Post by _the_inflator » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 2:55 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #288

capableweb wrote: post #5

> potentially barring companies like Amazon.com from operating the markets in which they also compete Absolutely bananas that this haven't been fixed yet! How can Google own the entire ads market and still be allowed to compete in it? Obviously for-profit companies will abuse their positions if it'll earn them more money, and fines ends up being the cost of doing business instead of deterrents. How is Apple allowed t…

> The list goes on. I'm happy that it's being suggested, I'm just worried how it took so long to get here. Because this is a Gish Gallop of weak individual reasons batched together to make it seem like a stronger obvious argument when it’s not. > How can Google own the entire ads market and still be allowed to compete in it? They don’t. Amazon and Facebook both make a fortune from ads. You need to be more specific. >…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 3:29 AM UTC

foobar33333 wrote: post #403

kortilla wrote: post #288

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> The list goes on. I'm happy that it's being suggested, I'm just worried how it took so long to get here. Because this is a Gish Gallop of weak individual reasons batched together to make it seem like a stronger obvious argument when it’s not. > How can Google own the entire ads market and still be allowed to compete in it? They don’t. Amazon and Facebook both make a fortune from ads. You need to be more specific. >…

>The same reason you can’t put software you want on a Xbox/PlayStation/Switch. What reason is this? As far as I'm concerned you should be allowed to install whatever you want on game consoles as well.

Post by anfilt » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 4:28 AM UTC

bun_at_work wrote: post #330

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #324

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That is totally irrelevant. This about not allowing competing browsers as a blanket policy. If this was trully about security, Apple can do as many security audits as they want. They can even charge for them. They can require affidavit, security officers, insurance policy, indemnity, etc. But they dont because this is not about security, it is about controling the market

Controlling what market? The browser market? A large part of Apple's brand, at this point, is security from snooping, personal privacy, etc etc. It makes sense to control the browser on the iPhone for privacy than it does to seek to eliminate browser competitors. Safari isn't a crucial part of their revenue, devices with the security promise are. Furthermore, the browser seems to be the key space where use privacy is…

Post by asciident » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 6:23 AM UTC

more_corn wrote: post #348

I'm pleased to see that Netflix has been kicked out of FAANG. Makes sense since they are facing robust competition and no-longer qualify for near monopoly status. I also support the reordering of the words as presented in the article since GAAF is way more appealing than leaving it as is with Netflix removed.

Post by sigg3 » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:06 AM UTC

telmo wrote: post #377

kortilla wrote: post #332

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People use Google because the algorithm is a black box that is constantly updated to keep away black hat SEO crap. An open web page ranking algorithm is useless in an adversarial environment. There is no current signal that can’t be trivially gained that doesn’t effectively require mass user surveillance (to see “what’s really popular”). > 2. “This is why the search engine company should be separate from the company…

> black hat SEO crap Pretty redundant if you ask me: black hat, SEO and crap.