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Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by wsinks »

kossTKR wrote: post #8
TimSchumann wrote: post #3

Anecdote, but this may explain why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly. Turns out, if you stop putting everything but water/salt in your body, there's not much left that causes inflammation.

Same here. It's the closest thing to an actual wonder drug i have ever come across. My skin clears up, brainfog disappears, the white in my eyes get brighter, etc. After reading a bit i have come to the same conclusion - if your diet is already extremely clean / bland, maybe you won't get the same effect, but for most people that eats lots of different foods, processed stuff, fast food, alcohol, harsh additives, frie…

I'm here for it. You're saying that a water only fast for approximately 48 hours once every full moon helps out?

I've done some intermittent fasting before (I think that's where you make sure you don't eat after 18:00 and only start at 9:00)

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by heavyset_go »

TimSchumann wrote: post #3

Anecdote, but this may explain why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly. Turns out, if you stop putting everything but water/salt in your body, there's not much left that causes inflammation.

Fasting also has a significant impact on the immune system, causing it to downregulate certain immune cells and responses, and to upregulate others.

The results you feel might not be from the lack of inflammation from food, but from a change in immune responses, some of which can reduce inflammation and other bad feelings.

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by kossTKR »

wsinks wrote: post #11
kossTKR wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. It's the closest thing to an actual wonder drug i have ever come across. My skin clears up, brainfog disappears, the white in my eyes get brighter, etc. After reading a bit i have come to the same conclusion - if your diet is already extremely clean / bland, maybe you won't get the same effect, but for most people that eats lots of different foods, processed stuff, fast food, alcohol, harsh additives, frie…

I'm here for it. You're saying that a water only fast for approximately 48 hours once every full moon helps out? I've done some intermittent fasting before (I think that's where you make sure you don't eat after 18:00 and only start at 9:00)

Yes, exactly how long probably depends on a lot of factors, but the benefits really starts for me after 30+ hours.

Drinking water with potassium + magnesium + salt also helps a lot, to replenish electrolytes, but some people can manage without. Some people can continue workouts, others continue for 7+ days. It's all about experimentation.

Atm. i start each week fasting and just fast for as long as it feels ok. Often 1-3 days.

I would recommend 2 fasts per month 36-48 hours, and with electrolyte water for newcomers.

Off course starting weight, activity level etc. is also important factors, i'm personally trying to lose some "corona weight" atm.

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by atat7024 »

legerdemain wrote: post #7
TimSchumann wrote: post #3

Anecdote, but this may explain why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly. Turns out, if you stop putting everything but water/salt in your body, there's not much left that causes inflammation.

Inflammation is a basic life process, not a reaction to the food you eat. Inflammation plays an active part in wound-healing. Teething in infants has an inflammatory component. Systemic inflammation is ubiquitous during and following parturition in mammals. There is inflammation everywhere, it's as generic a word as "oxidation" and "metabolism."

Every time you eat, the body enters a state of heightened inflammation. This is well documented. Please don't spread disinformation.

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

tartoran wrote: post #9
legerdemain wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inflammation is a basic life process, not a reaction to the food you eat. Inflammation plays an active part in wound-healing. Teething in infants has an inflammatory component. Systemic inflammation is ubiquitous during and following parturition in mammals. There is inflammation everywhere, it's as generic a word as "oxidation" and "metabolism."

That's like saying cell division is a basic life process and nothing can stop this process from going haywire, but what about cancer. It is widely believed that inflammation levels spike for certain foods and the overall effect on the body is not optimal to say the least.

There's a middle ground: some is probably beneficial in certain cases, but you can have too much of a good thing-- then it's an issue.

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by gopalv »

TimSchumann wrote: post #3

Anecdote, but this may explain why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly. Turns out, if you stop putting everything but water/salt in your body, there's not much left that causes inflammation.

> why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly.

Considering this is Ramadan and fasting is pretty much on-topic, I notice a big difference between the religious fasts and the self-regulated ones.

The ramadan fasting without water seems to result in a net weight loss between the morning and the first meal.

On the other hand, people like me who do drink water/electrolytes, see our weight go up in the day from drinking water to compensate for the hunger.

A small part of what you experience might just be reaching adequate hydration and dropping salt levels to a more healthy level over the day.

Re: Inflammation, but Not Telomere Length, Predicts Ageing at Extreme Old Age

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Post by treeman79 »

TimSchumann wrote: post #3

Anecdote, but this may explain why I feel so much healthier when I'm fasting regularly. Turns out, if you stop putting everything but water/salt in your body, there's not much left that causes inflammation.

Was in a massive Sjogrens flare. Stopped eating for a month. Collapsing aside, my inflammation was fixed.

Did a month on sweet potatoes. Very boring but same result.

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