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Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #43
nate_meurer wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, doxxing is the release of private information. That's the universally understood meaning of the term, and the only useful one. If you want to redefine the term to pertain to public information, then the term is no longer useful. It's just "displaying public information" at that point.

The canonical dox is posting someone’s name and address. If that’s not doxxing, the word has no meaning.

> canonical dox is posting someone’s name and address

Posting a pseudonymous person’s name and address divulges private information: the real person behind the pseudonym. Posting a public official’s name and address isn’t doxxing.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by driverdan »

Trias11 wrote: post #18
winstonchecksin wrote: post #6

We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

In Nevada you can legally protect yourself and your loved one inside occupied vehicle (or house) during attack with a deadly weapon. Which means make a colander out of worthless idiot.

If you think killing someone over smashing a window is reasonable you need to seek help immediately. Please talk go a mental health professional.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by cousin_it »

nvr219 wrote: post #3

Of all the ways Facebook restricts speech on its platform this one is pretty low on the list in my opinion. Seems like that particular article has some content that violates their doxxing policy (whatever that is). Other articles about the same topic can be shared including from Fox.

I don't remember FB applying that policy when the NYT doxed Scott.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by dragonwriter »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #46
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

>A Facebook spokesperson told Newsweek, "This content was removed for violating our privacy and personal information policy." The policy forbids articles that share details that could identify a person's financial and residential information, thus violating their privacy rights. That seems like a pretty flimsy excuse given that I see stories about individuals of public interest buying expensive property on Facebook a…

"The policy forbids articles that share details that could identifiy a person's financial and residential information." Meanwhile selling access to Facebook users whose personal information matches certain financial, geolocation and other personal criteria, is how Facebook makes money. Facebook is allowed to identify a person's residential and financial information, and it is allowed to use this information to sell a…

> Facebook is allowed to identify a person’s residential and financial information, and it is allowed to use this information to sell access to users to other organisations, but it’s a violation of Facebook policy for users to share this information.

Uh, so? “You can’t use our platform to compete with the means by which we monetize the platform” isn’t an uncommon, or hard to understand, policy for private, for-profit platforms. It’s not the overt basis for the policy in question, but even if it was the covert interest, it wouldn’t be unusual.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by throwawaysea »

pvg wrote: post #45
throwawaysea wrote: post #40

Here is the New York Post's reply to to this ( https://nypost.com/2021/04/16/social-media-again-silences-th... ): > Our article features some pictures of the properties she bought, but includes no addresses, in fact doesn’t even say the city in some cases. Our reporter compiled the information from public records. It's incredible that they don't allow this information but were completely fine with people discussing T…

Trump was the president of the United States, under 24/7 protection then and for the rest of his life. Most people, even fairly notable ones, don't have that luxury. Tabloids publish potentially harmful information with reasonable frequency and FB refusing to republish a tabloid piece is not a meaningful impediment to the dissemination of ideas.

You're using speculation and a one-sided determination about publicly available information being harmful to justify censorship. It is completely unreasonable for an organization as large, influential, and powerful as Facebook (or Twitter) to censor ideas from one half of the country due to the biases of their employees and leaders. And yes, it is a meaningful impediment to dissemination of ideas since virtually all our society's conversations today take place on platforms owned by big tech companies. Our fundamental rights to free speech have been eroded by outsourcing the public town square to these companies that act in discriminatory ways. It's time to break them up, treat them as utilities, and regulate them heavily to uphold principles of free speech

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by Alupis »

dragonwriter wrote: post #48
rayiner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

> The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. That…has no bearing on whether sharing it violates Facebook policy on “privacy and personal information”. What would have a bearing would be citing the language of the policy and showing how the action was inconsistent with it, and I suspect that is not happening because the action is, in fact, consistent with the policy.

It's difficult to see this as anything other than a selectively enforced policy, which seems to be applied in a very lop-sided politically-motivated way.

Whether it's a policy of Facebook's or not is completely irrelevant. If they do not enforce this policy consistently, it opens them to accusations of political bias... which is what we have here.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by jasonfarnon »

nate_meurer wrote: post #37
antiterra wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doxxing that results in harassment is very often done via public information. What’s your point?

No, doxxing is the release of private information. That's the universally understood meaning of the term, and the only useful one. If you want to redefine the term to pertain to public information, then the term is no longer useful. It's just "displaying public information" at that point.

"and the only useful one" Actually this is a useless definition, because what constitutes "private information" is exactly at issue

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by temp0826 »

I guess I am further out of the loop than I thought (and imagine I'll get reemed for this comment), but I thought BLM was a movement (with dubious Russian propagandic origins designed to fuel divisiveness, but turned mostly noble), not an organization. How did this org even come to be? I'd love to read an actual timeline or history of this all.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by jasonfarnon »

Barrin92 wrote: post #7

>A Facebook spokesperson told Newsweek, "This content was removed for violating our privacy and personal information policy." The policy forbids articles that share details that could identify a person's financial and residential information, thus violating their privacy rights. That seems like a pretty flimsy excuse given that I see stories about individuals of public interest buying expensive property on Facebook a…

Surely there is a public figure exception? You can't post a pic of Barbara Streisand's house on facebook?
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