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U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crackdown

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Not looking forward to a future where the US sabotages its best tech companies and we all end up working for Alibaba, Tencent or Baidu (or founding startups with the aim of being acquired by them.)

What's wrong with Chinese tech companies?

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Chrome is a bit more then a skin and you know it and I am sure you can't expect to trick competent people with this argument. If iOS would implement PWA then some native applications could be implemented as as PWA and Apple would lose money(I don't believe the security or privacy excuse either, a PWA will always have less access then a native app)

PWA are supported by iOS

Is this "Safari the new IE" just a meme https://www.safari-is-the-new-ie.com

I will have to let someone else to continue this since I don't own a iOS device and at work we don't target mobile.

Though I had to fix soem iOS issue sin a third party plugin, it was using some WebGl and it was broken on iOS, so the plugin was using a software(slow and ugly thing) for iOS but then Apple change things so tablets pretend they are desktops and broke the plugin(so from my limited experience iOS browsers are inferior ).

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Can the precedent from this be applied to AT&T and comcast??

Sure would be nice but I don’t see it happening. This seems like political theater more than anything.

You’re going to need to get an entirely new electorate to get anything real happening.

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> How can Amazon be allowed to sell competing products in their own marketplace, when they own the actual marketplace? They should have been forced to divide their busin Depends on how you define “marketplace”. Costco/Walmart/Best Buy/Target/Home Depot/Lowe’s/grocery stores all sell their own brands next to competing brands in their stores. Is their one store the marketplace? It takes considerably more effort to go t…

It's not just whatever marketplace, anti-monopoly legislation focuses on markets where the players own a significant share of the full market. In the case of Amazon, it seems like they have above 52% of the e-commerce market in the US in 2019 ( https://www.statista.com/statistics/955796/global-amazon-e-c... ) so probably it's even higher now. When one player now has over half the market, you need to carefully watch w…

the percentage share of a market is an indicator but not the defining characteristic of monopoly practices, rather it’s control. principally that manifests as pricing power and leverage over competitors. a monopolist can have a 20% share and still exert anti-competitive power over that market.

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At the expense of whataboutism, I'd love to see some kind of legislation against themselves as opposed to trying to bring these business entities under their heel. Something along the lines of: "GOP and Democratic party hold a duopolistic power over significant portions of our political representation options. This duopoly moment must end" (borrowed from the article and replaced appropriately).

Every business that they are trying to "crackdown" against faces varying levels of competition in almost every space they are in, and consumers either have numerous options to choose from to get a particular service, or the default that they end up using on is actually the best among the available alternatives.

God forbid politicians focus on taking action against actual monopolies as opposed to these stupid theatrics.

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I was mainly referring to how every browser app on iOS is forced have Safari underneath. The wiki page on Firefox for iOS [1] mentions this in some detail - it cannot use Gecko like it does on desktop and Android, it must use WebKit instead. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_for_iOS

This is a technical detail most people don’t care about. You still get all the competing browsers with all their specific features on iOS, regardless of the rendering engine.

I believe due to webkit no browsers are allowed to do full screen with multitouch. It is possible this only affects Safari and Chrome and isn't a webkit limitation, I haven't tested Firefox.

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I wouldn't bury your flag on this argument. Many users don't care about that stuff, and Apple is winning the privacy war through decisions like these.

Well, the alternative to PWAs is publishing through proprietary app stores - the users might not care to much, but it's incredibly important for us as devs. Also, one really can't trust a proprietary browser like Safari with their personal data - while one might be able to switch from Chrome due to FLOC on Android, Linux, Windows etc., Safari would _force_ the change on their users, with them being unable to switch t…

I’d hate to see the mobile landscape dominated by web apps the way the desktop is. PWAs benefit developers, but I’ve yet to see how they improve my UX as an end user (when compared to native)

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#268

Not looking forward to a future where the US sabotages its best tech companies and we all end up working for Alibaba, Tencent or Baidu (or founding startups with the aim of being acquired by them.)

What's wrong with Chinese tech companies?

Some of us don't want to work for the CCP.

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> How can Amazon be allowed to sell competing products in their own marketplace, when they own the actual marketplace? They should have been forced to divide their busin Depends on how you define “marketplace”. Costco/Walmart/Best Buy/Target/Home Depot/Lowe’s/grocery stores all sell their own brands next to competing brands in their stores. Is their one store the marketplace? It takes considerably more effort to go t…

It's not just whatever marketplace, anti-monopoly legislation focuses on markets where the players own a significant share of the full market. In the case of Amazon, it seems like they have above 52% of the e-commerce market in the US in 2019 ( https://www.statista.com/statistics/955796/global-amazon-e-c... ) so probably it's even higher now. When one player now has over half the market, you need to carefully watch w…

Search result positioning is equivalent to physical placement in brick and mortars. Are you going to start legislating where exactly Whole Foods or Target can place its house-brand items? Should Starbucks be forced to reorder its menu items in descending order of popularity?

There's basically nothing on Amazon that can't be purchased elsewhere online, so to say that the answers to the above questions can change because lots of people choose to buy from Amazon doesn't ring of "protecting the consumer". If anything, the fact that so many people choose to shop there makes me think the consumers have spoken and they like the deal they're getting.

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> How can Amazon be allowed to sell competing products in their own marketplace, when they own the actual marketplace? They should have been forced to divide their busin Depends on how you define “marketplace”. Costco/Walmart/Best Buy/Target/Home Depot/Lowe’s/grocery stores all sell their own brands next to competing brands in their stores. Is their one store the marketplace? It takes considerably more effort to go t…

Should Costco/Walmart be allowed to sell products along competing ones in their own marketplace? No! Of course! I’d like to see how well they would perform on Target/Best Buy shelves, they probably wouldn’t sell at all. Therefore the only origin for their success is an abuse of marketplace ownership, and it has distorted the market, and therefore has harmed consumers by simply reducing quality brand’s ability to scal…

Should Costco/Walmart be able to sell their own brands on their own website? Should retailers who sell other brands be able to sell their own brand at all?

> and therefore has harmed consumers by simply reducing quality brand’s ability to scale, by imposing higher shelf costs for the same brand exposure, and therefore fewer sales.

How come brand name items cost more on the brand’s website compared to Walmart’s brands on Walmart’s website? There is no shelf cost online.

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