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Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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Note the different scenarios: an amicable conversation (a collaborative exploration of ideas) rather than a written academic piece where you need to make a claim (defend a thesis).

A good point. I was thinking both at different times; Mr. Franklin (IIRC--been a while) was referring to conversation among groups of friends.

Side-comment: I really hope more people become specific with their language. When you ask someone how long something took and they say "not too long" -- that's virtually no information. I try to be specific, like "about 6 hours" - since "long" is relative to a person's point of view (for some, 5 minutes is too long).

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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To thine own self be true. Assertiveness is difficult to learn, the truth is that you do not have enough life experiences which build your own inner fortitude. I would highly suggest doing something which is competitive, sports builds tons of confidence, but also another great thing you can do which is recommended by many successful people is to get involved with a toast masters and practice. Practice makes that 9 as they say.

Good luck in your efforts to grow it is encouragable to learn to be assertive and exude confidence, You Can Do It.

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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30 seconds saying nothing would be way, way too long. People would begin to think you are having a panic attack or something.

I would agree that 30 seconds is getting towards the upper end of what you can pull off. But I believe that it can be done, if you manage your body language, hand gestures, facial expressions, etc. properly. Now if somebody stood there for 30 seconds doing the "blank expression" thing, then yeah, it's starting to get awkward for everyone. Anyway, here's a thought: make a game out of it. Next time you're speaking in a…

The problem is not so much the uncomfortableness of it, but if you stop speaking for 30secs half your audience will be already fidgeting their magic infinte scroll glass slabs TM to try and entertain their minds / fill the void...

Smartphones are great conversation killers, lol

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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There are a lot of ways that I use to practice my public speaking skills.

Do this consistently:

> Having a great posture helps me.

> I always practice during my free time.

> I tend to compose a lot of phrases in my mind.

> Talking to myself in front of a mirror.

> Clear your throat

> Always have an idea about the topic or listen

Doing these tasks tremendously improved my speaking skills.

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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A good point. I was thinking both at different times; Mr. Franklin (IIRC--been a while) was referring to conversation among groups of friends.

Side-comment: I really hope more people become specific with their language. When you ask someone how long something took and they say "not too long" -- that's virtually no information. I try to be specific, like "about 6 hours" - since "long" is relative to a person's point of view (for some, 5 minutes is too long).

I have thought so too. Many times. Pls forgive or ignore my verbosity here, but I have been thinking about this.

I found that when I ask people to be specific, sometimes, they are noticeably distressed, or they don't want to talk more, as that is hard for them. I am starting (finally?) to learn that people are more different from each other than we realize. Like that internet meme about a dress where people clearly saw it in different colors from each other. Some just hate text UIs or a CLI, others couldn't be parted from them. Some are naturally good at music, or the arts, or balancing their finances, or being kind, or finding deals, building, putting others at ease, fixing broken things, or wearing matching clothes, or interior decorating, or some of us just have to work really hard to not be awkward in their company. And if I tell a color-blind person to just try harder, they might be hurt, and if someone in the room is unusually kind and wise, they might help me learn not to be a jerk. Like, I sometimes just don't care what color a chair is. But to some, it is actually distressing if it isn't right. Some even feel fear when seeing those who are different, because it is unfamiliar (edit: maybe they subconsciously don't know how to judge the safety of an unknown), etc.

We are all a work in progress in every area I guess, and we have to pick a limited few to get better at, at any given time; some things that come naturally to some people, others don't even know those things exist--it just doesn't hit the radar at all.

So... I am trying to learn to speak their other languages (didn't realize this in my youth), at least sometimes, though it is hard and tiring. And I hope they will be patient with me too.

(Maybe that is partly why God commands us to forgive others, in order to be forgiven. And surely we all need it.)

Edits: occasionally, if someone can't be specific or I can guess it is hard for them, I say like "Probably, it's more than 10 seconds [or 2 dollars, whatever fits], and less than 10 thousand [something very obviously excessive, but not too extreme.] I bet you can come closer than that." Then they actually make a guess that is as good as the situation will likely get, or it leads to more discussion.

It helps if I smile like to indicate that the wild guess is an obvious joke between us and that we are friends about it; then they are more willing to talk a little more and I might learn something.

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good point. I was thinking both at different times; Mr. Franklin (IIRC--been a while) was referring to conversation among groups of friends.

Side-comment: I really hope more people become specific with their language. When you ask someone how long something took and they say "not too long" -- that's virtually no information. I try to be specific, like "about 6 hours" - since "long" is relative to a person's point of view (for some, 5 minutes is too long).

pps: ok, I am into overkill now. But this makes me think of the language Esperanto. Learnable in 1/4 the time of Spanish which is among the easier languages for some. So internally consistent, rich, and seems to me the cheapest way for the world to be able to talk to each other. Not to replace native languages but as a universal 2nd, which some say makes the 3rd language easier than if it had been 2nd (less time overall).

(And many more things. which is why I have a web site because I can write and people don't have to hear it if they aren't interested.)

Edit: I have found that esperanto and spanish are both easier than Russian, and those are as far as I am going to try now for some time, I expect.

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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That book is snake oil written for introverts. Your ticket to confidence is public speaking, conversing with strangers, capable of holding conversations even with people you hate or are bored with, and leaving your damn room to do literally anything but staying at home. If you're still embarrassed to show vulnerability and that you have faults, you'll never be confident.

Your comment is a bit of a mess but I'll try engage. Did you read the book? What did you get from it? Assuming you don't consider yourself an introvert, how did you come to the conclusion it is snake oil for introverts? Public speaking is not something everyone has to do or has to enjoy. Is public speaking mandatory for an artist, a carpenter, a small business owner, a kindergarten teacher, a nurse, a fireman, an acc…

I don't consider myself an introvert. I very much was an introvert most of my teenaged and early 20's years. Now I don't consider myself either because I think it's stupid. Some weeks I really need to just stay in cause I have stuff I want or need to do. Other days I'm excited to go out.

I call it snake oil because it sells this idea that introverts are just misunderstood and not listened to enough because of their introspective nature. Well, if they want anyone to listen to them, they have to learn how to convey a message meaningful enough and with cultural/social tact that can only be earned through experiences with other people. Being an introvert will not garner you that.

It's not just "introverts need to leave their damn room" it's "if introverts wanna be heard, they need to become extroverts because they do not have the average social/emotional intelligence that extroverts do." The reason I say this is because there are a myriad of socialites with 0 skills whatsoever yet they hold a greater reach and clout than even the smartest programmer who just sits in his house all day coding. Why? Because they have people who will vouch for what they'll say. "Actions not words" certainly holds merit, but if you got 1,000 people who can vouch for you or are willing to lie on your behalf, it holds greater sway in human society than you being capable of maintaining the most complex and incredible code bases.

Re: Ask HN: How to Speak Confidently?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That book is snake oil written for introverts. Your ticket to confidence is public speaking, conversing with strangers, capable of holding conversations even with people you hate or are bored with, and leaving your damn room to do literally anything but staying at home. If you're still embarrassed to show vulnerability and that you have faults, you'll never be confident.

What if you are not interested in other person private life, weather, etc I cannot find a point in those small talk conversations. Rarely people done anything interesting and it's hard to pretend you are genuinely interested. I rarely speak to people. How to find interest?

It's a social skill. Once you break past the facade that everybody partakes in you realize it makes people like you.

I used to think and act the same way. I'd never talk, I kept to myself, and didn't feel the need to talk about frivolous things. Then I realized I had no friends.

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