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And I made the opposite switch to Mac after the M1 was released.
What did you switch from and how have you found it?
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That's what Linus Torvalds said too: ARM won't have a chance in the datacenter until it gets onto desktop computers of developers first. https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=183440&curpost... That moment is now here. Sure, it's only a subset of the market, but Mac devices are a significant percentage of developer computers (28%), way higher than in the general population (17%). https://insights.stackoverflow…
Why does it matter what CPU one is running on their desktop? In my laptop I have a consumer Intel CPU and AMD on a desktop, but my servers run on Xeon and ARM. Even for a second I didn't think that oh I have a Intel desktop CPU, so I need to avoid ARM. As long as project compiles for different architecture and you have good test coverage only thing that matters is performance and cost.
So it matters in that not everyone currently has tooling working for ARM, but Apple silicon is going to push that along real fast.
I wonder if the Apple Silicon decision is going to have a large impact on what CPUs are used in the datacenter? I (and I suspect many others) would just default to x86_64, because that's what I develop on and compile to. I suspect many developers on Apple computers will start to look at the differences and choose whatever meets their requirements while minimizing costs. Should this trend continue, this could even hav…
We are looking to switch over to Graviton ASAP. The cost/performance ratio is just too appealing to ignore now.
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That's what Linus Torvalds said too: ARM won't have a chance in the datacenter until it gets onto desktop computers of developers first. https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=183440&curpost... That moment is now here. Sure, it's only a subset of the market, but Mac devices are a significant percentage of developer computers (28%), way higher than in the general population (17%). https://insights.stackoverflow…
Why does it matter what CPU one is running on their desktop? In my laptop I have a consumer Intel CPU and AMD on a desktop, but my servers run on Xeon and ARM. Even for a second I didn't think that oh I have a Intel desktop CPU, so I need to avoid ARM. As long as project compiles for different architecture and you have good test coverage only thing that matters is performance and cost.
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The other side of that is that this would be an awesome local dev platform for a shop targeting ARM servers.
Yep. Given that the fastest Windows ARM device is an M1 Macbook Pro running Windows in Parallels, there's currently no competition for local platforms and ARM. If Amazon and Nvidia's ARM server chips really pick up steam, then the M1 Macbooks would be the premiere local device.
I seriously doubt this is true if you include desktop computers in the comparison.
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Yep. Given that the fastest Windows ARM device is an M1 Macbook Pro running Windows in Parallels, there's currently no competition for local platforms and ARM. If Amazon and Nvidia's ARM server chips really pick up steam, then the M1 Macbooks would be the premiere local device.
> Given that the fastest Windows ARM device is an M1 Macbook Pro running Windows in Parallels I seriously doubt this is true if you include desktop computers in the comparison.
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> OP was the one asserting how M1 is relevant for the data center. And I think his assertion is on point, in the sense that the widespread availability of desktop ARMs on developers hands will help drive ARM adoption to the datacenter (and that's just with the M1/M... line, not to mention further ARM adoption by MS that's also possible). For what is worth, Linus Torvalds made a similar point regarding the influence o…
Given the rest of their comment, I thought "care for" meant "support". That is, system administration and developer support, rather than "care about"...
In that case, I apologize!
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That’s assuming all current Mac developers decide to switch to ARM macs. I (Mac developer of 13 years) have switched away to linux. I’m sure there are others like me.
Not for me, the user experience for Linux based PCs hasn’t changed in 10 years. That is it still not as good as as macOS.
Anyone have suggestions for good tutorials or courses on getting up to speed with Docker? I've procrastinated on learning, in part because the mac app wasn't ready when I initially looked at it years ago.
The whole point of docker was to have reproducible builds. What runs on the dev machine also runs on the server. But M1 macs change that in a major way. There might be bugs or available features in ARM versions of popular software, so what works on a dev machine might not work on the server and vice-versa.
http://www.jakubkonka.com/2021/01/21/llvm-tls-apple-silicon....