Docker Desktop for Mac (Apple Silicon)

Post by shawnz » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 5:53 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #19

Reminder: unlike the docker command line tool, and the dockerd server container management tool, the Docker Desktop products are a) not free software, b) not even source available, and c) send a lot of sensitive data about your system back to Docker Inc without consent. I didn’t realize this for a while myself, as the docker CLI tools are all free software. The “Desktop” variants are not, and embed spyware.

Post by pjmlp » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 5:55 AM UTC

est31 wrote: post #14

Laremere wrote: post #12

I wonder if the Apple Silicon decision is going to have a large impact on what CPUs are used in the datacenter? I (and I suspect many others) would just default to x86_64, because that's what I develop on and compile to. I suspect many developers on Apple computers will start to look at the differences and choose whatever meets their requirements while minimizing costs. Should this trend continue, this could even hav…

That's what Linus Torvalds said too: ARM won't have a chance in the datacenter until it gets onto desktop computers of developers first. https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=183440&curpost... That moment is now here. Sure, it's only a subset of the market, but Mac devices are a significant percentage of developer computers (28%), way higher than in the general population (17%). https://insights.stackoverflow…

Post by toabi » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

thethimble wrote: post #24

biztos wrote: post #22

Doesn’t this imply that we could have Docker for iOS? I don’t think Apple would allow it, but it seems like an interesting antitrust wedge if they blocked it.

I don’t think MacOS and iOS are similar enough for this to be an obvious jump. I think the iOS kernel is also prohibitively locked down to do anything like custom virtualization.

Post by pjmlp » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

me551ah wrote: post #9

The whole point of docker was to have reproducible builds. What runs on the dev machine also runs on the server. But M1 macs change that in a major way. There might be bugs or available features in ARM versions of popular software, so what works on a dev machine might not work on the server and vice-versa.

Post by thethimble » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 6:13 AM UTC

toabi wrote: post #25

thethimble wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think MacOS and iOS are similar enough for this to be an obvious jump. I think the iOS kernel is also prohibitively locked down to do anything like custom virtualization.

https://twitter.com/ktemkin/status/1382913602940674050