Right now there is no financial incentive to preserve topsoil. In the future there will be. So why artificially create incentive to pay the higher cost now when we can punt to the future where technology will be so much better and the cost will probably be lower?
What makes your you think that in the future there will be financial incentive?
The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
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Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#122Yes. But most of the crop grown in that 'corn belt' is not for human consumption, it's for feeding livestock. We're destroying farmland to feed our need for meat. The rest of the crop in the Corn Belt--soybeans--is mostly exported abroad.
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#123Modern farming is not the bucolic system drawn on the food packages in the supermarket. It's an extractive industry little different from mining or oil drilling. In fact industrial food is largely eating oil, both in energy intensity itself and the use of oil as feedstock for fertilizers and food additives.
I come from a long line of farmers. My father was the last of our family to try to hold onto the farming tradition. He grew up on a farm, along with all my aunts and uncles. His generation was the first go to college. He chose business. He made a ton of money, and hated it. After leaving the business world in the mid 1980s to return to farming, it was not the same, and he soon returned to what was effectively day tra…
Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#124There has been a lot of talk lately we are like 60 harvests away from disaster.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-...
*Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years*
We are f...ed the way things are going. Might have to start gardening locally (back yard) or hope Indoor vertical farming takes off.
Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#125Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Don't know if it's true but someone once told me nothing will grow in a corn field for 5 years afterwards unless it is roundup ready. There has been a lot of talk lately we are like 60 harvests away from disaster. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-... *Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years* We are f...ed the…
No reason not to start now depending on where you are. I grow for flavour and value not calories.
Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#126Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Don't know if it's true but someone once told me nothing will grow in a corn field for 5 years afterwards unless it is roundup ready. There has been a lot of talk lately we are like 60 harvests away from disaster. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-... *Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years* We are f...ed the…
Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#127Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#128Modern farming is not the bucolic system drawn on the food packages in the supermarket. It's an extractive industry little different from mining or oil drilling. In fact industrial food is largely eating oil, both in energy intensity itself and the use of oil as feedstock for fertilizers and food additives.
I come from a long line of farmers. My father was the last of our family to try to hold onto the farming tradition. He grew up on a farm, along with all my aunts and uncles. His generation was the first go to college. He chose business. He made a ton of money, and hated it. After leaving the business world in the mid 1980s to return to farming, it was not the same, and he soon returned to what was effectively day tra…
this is it right here. we're extracting all nutrients from a concentrated area and sending the yields far away. There's no replenishment.
Even the water shortages in California is not as simple as "farmers are using all the water". It's the demand for food far, far away.
Re: The U.S. corn belt has lost a third of its topsoil
#129Just imagine how much Glyphosate has been dumped on that soil. Don't know if it's true but someone once told me nothing will grow in a corn field for 5 years afterwards unless it is roundup ready. There has been a lot of talk lately we are like 60 harvests away from disaster. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-... *Generating three centimeters of top soil takes 1,000 years* We are f...ed the…
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#130E.g. "Treating the Farm as an Ecosystem with Gabe Brown Part 1, The 5 Tenets of Soil Health" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmIdq0D6-A
Regenerative agriculture is profitable (Brown makes money) and build soil volume and fertility year on year.