I am an Indian. I can attest that a lot indians are extremely corrupt and will abuse the system as as possible for their own benefit. I am so ashamed of being an indian. Indians are the people who don’t put the shopping cart back in its place and just leave it in the parking lot and the rest of the people can’t park their cars. They unload the cart into car and don’t bother that traffic is backing up.
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#222Re: Products purchased at Apple Store in India cannot be refunded or exchanged
#223Apple had a lot of trouble with the Indian market back the early 2010s. They had to pull AppleCare+ out of the country because people were abusing it a lot. [†] Same goes for the country's biggest online retailers, both Amazon and Flipkart also switched to a replacement-only policy in India. "Most analysts agree that many many buyers were abusing the company's refund policy. With many buying latest smartphones, and r…
Lots of products should have a return window this long or longer.
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#224I am an Indian. I can attest that a lot indians are extremely corrupt and will abuse the system as as possible for their own benefit. I am so ashamed of being an indian. Indians are the people who don’t put the shopping cart back in its place and just leave it in the parking lot and the rest of the people can’t park their cars. They unload the cart into car and don’t bother that traffic is backing up.
I used to feel good/bad depending on what people from my country/region/group etc. do. But it's so silly. Why do I care what another person does - whom I don't even know? It's the same with long lost ancestors.
So now a days I notice such thoughts quickly and remember that it's a silly heuristic that my brain uses and I should ignore it.
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I'm honestly curious - how so? In all my adult life I have been comparing prices between EU and US and they are always about the same once you factor in taxes. Yes the VAT can make items slightly more expensive, but VAT has absolutely nothing to do with the retailers responsibility for the product, right? >>On a risk adjusted basis, the cost is the same. I'd love to see how you came to that conclusion. In EU the sell…
This has been the subject of numerous academic papers. Again, it's not like the EU government has somehow fooled companies into losing money in the EU. I highly doubt you're doing true absolute calculations factoring in all the supply chain, macroeconomic, and tax considerations. The reason you can't easily compare this at a glance is complicated by currency fluctuations, shipping costs, labor costs, embedded VAT in…
Those papers sound interesting. Can you recommend any?
>it's no secret that Europe isn't exactly a hotbed of tech innovation
When you mean innovation, do you refer to Xerox and Bell Labs? Or to Microsoft and Apple? Cause europe has a lot of the first kind, not much of the second kind. And even when they do, they might end being sold out. Like Nokia and Skype.
Re: Products purchased at Apple Store in India cannot be refunded or exchanged
#226I am an Indian. I can attest that a lot indians are extremely corrupt and will abuse the system as as possible for their own benefit. I am so ashamed of being an indian. Indians are the people who don’t put the shopping cart back in its place and just leave it in the parking lot and the rest of the people can’t park their cars. They unload the cart into car and don’t bother that traffic is backing up.
Is this a troll?
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm honestly curious - how so? In all my adult life I have been comparing prices between EU and US and they are always about the same once you factor in taxes. Yes the VAT can make items slightly more expensive, but VAT has absolutely nothing to do with the retailers responsibility for the product, right? >>On a risk adjusted basis, the cost is the same. I'd love to see how you came to that conclusion. In EU the sell…
This has been the subject of numerous academic papers. Again, it's not like the EU government has somehow fooled companies into losing money in the EU. I highly doubt you're doing true absolute calculations factoring in all the supply chain, macroeconomic, and tax considerations. The reason you can't easily compare this at a glance is complicated by currency fluctuations, shipping costs, labor costs, embedded VAT in…
I mean, I do see your point. But we as a society have decided that sellers should be responsible for a minimum of 2 years for any items they sell. That's just what we (society) require from anyone willing to run a business. We also require them not to dump toxic waste into rivers, and pay their taxes - all enterpreneurs the world over have certain obligations to the state, US just placed the bar lower than elsewhere. I don't mean to say which approach is "right", but I do mean to say that as a consumer I like having greater protections in the EU, even if "perhaps" it means the products bought here cost more.
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Why would people want to have an iPhone for only a week? That sounds like more of a hassle than it is worth. Just to see what they are like?
YouTube product reviews! People try to copy MKBHD, but as they don't get free products from Apple unlike Marques they buy them for a week.
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It's really strange to see that on HN when a company is paying only the taxes it legally has to, it's called "business acumen", but when a person is extracting all the value it can from a policy, it's "abusing the policy". I wonder if the same people hold both the opinions.
Not entirely disagreeing with you, but if we want to stop companies from avoiding tax, we should change the tax code. Apple has gone and done the analog of that; they've changed the returns code. I don't see anything wrong with what Apple has done here, and if the US decided to tighten up the tax code, I wouldn't see anything wrong with that either. To your actual point, I think it's about intent and spirit. The hole…
The result, which is that large corporations have a tax rate lower than small businesses, is what is important. Do you want a company, as it grows bigger and spends more on the legal implications of its business structure, to be able to lower its tax rate? Do you want to incentivize bigger companies to have more tax agility than smaller ones? I don't, and I don't believe any legislator would hold such unpopular views.
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#230A friend who was on holiday in Turkey was refused a new iphone battery (she was willing to pay for it) at the official Apple store as it was not locally bought (she bought it in SF). So no global warranty, but also no global repair or replacement of parts with official parts even when you are willing to pay for it.
I have a totally different experience. I accidentally submerged my iPhone X in the sea as I got off a boat[1]. The phone although supposedly considered waterproof went mental and basically stopped working. I was flying back via Singapore (a week later) and went into the apple store at the airport. They replaced the phone and got me back up and running before my flight back to London. I live and had bought the phone i…
You were lucky and got it replaced under goodwill, as iPhone X has an IP67 rating[1] and specific about sea/salt water damage -- the kind you have described. Back home, you would have had to deal with a lot of grief[2].
[1] https://www.iphonehacks.com/2018/04/iphone-x-ip-67-water-res...