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Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by katbyte » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

cashewchoo wrote: post #14

gpm wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Where does the article mention a website-blocking system? Read the longer version rather than the press release: https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/693.nsf/eng/00191.html d. clarify or strengthen rights holders' enforcement tools against intermediaries, including by way of a statutory "website-blocking" and "de-indexing" regime.

Ah, so nothing technical.

That was my response when I heard about it “ok... how?” Not gonna ban VPN and everyone’s see about a million ads for them on YouTube now

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by katbyte » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:41 PM UTC

thinkloop wrote: post #42

cashewchoo wrote: post #8

Where does the article mention a website-blocking system? I'm curious as to the technical details. I'm sure it'll work this time. "For Canada to have an innovative and flourishing digital economy, we must protect copyright online" Hrmph. Citation required. Anyway, I'm not sure why businesses are so concerned about copyright still. Maybe this is specific to Canada? But country-specific things aside: * The DMCA already…

The reason things like steam can "best" piracy is because piracy is so crippled by anti-piracy. Between sites disappearing, spotty content, abusive ads, viruses, malware, and risk of prosecution, it's not hard being better. Imagine if that weren't the case and the free experience were seamless.

Are you kidding? Piracy has never been easier lol, gb internet and torrents for every popular show and movie on public trackers. The pirate bay is still around and going strong. I just don’t want my Goverment to waste money trying to stop the internet stoppable

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by ChrisArchitect » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:42 PM UTC

Apologies, used the editorialized headline from another article as a replacement for the one on this post

Federal government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/14/federal-government-propos...

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by katbyte » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:43 PM UTC

claaams wrote: post #46

What's going to stop someone from spending 5$ a month on a VPN and connecting to a neighboring country and continuing to torrent things, this time, much more securely? Is the next step banning VPN clients?

Nothing lol. That’s the problem they can’t stop it and it’ll be a waste of money and time

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by DC1350 » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

danbolt wrote: post #54

DC1350 wrote: post #24

Another screw up! The best thing that could ever happen in my life would be the Canadian government collapsing and the country getting annexed by the USA. Such an evil country. It’s so embarrassing to live here.

What would you like to see done differently in the Canadian government?

I don’t know how to fix it, but there are countries where the problems don’t exist and we would be better off as part of them. The average Canadian home owner now makes significantly more money on the house they live in than they do from their job. It’s a completely broken country and I expect it to stop existing within my lifetime.

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by kenmacd » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

claaams wrote: post #46

What's going to stop someone from spending 5$ a month on a VPN and connecting to a neighboring country and continuing to torrent things, this time, much more securely? Is the next step banning VPN clients?

Bell has been pushing for the banning of VPNs for years.

https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2019/01/bell-urged-canadian-gove...

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by katbyte » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

DC1350 wrote: post #24

Another screw up! The best thing that could ever happen in my life would be the Canadian government collapsing and the country getting annexed by the USA. Such an evil country. It’s so embarrassing to live here.

Speak for yourself that would be the worst thing to happen to this country, and I don’t know anyone who would rather live in America. I like my healthcare.

Do tell, why is it an evil country and why is it embarrassing?

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by ChrisArchitect » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #63

Apologies, used the editorialized headline from another article as a replacement for the one on this post Federal government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/14/federal-government-propos...

@Dang /mods feel free to update headline to match linked post

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by DylanDmitri » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #31

FractalParadigm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * Steam has already shown how to "best" piracy to the extent that a business can. It's not via copyright laws. Everyone thought rampant piracy would mean Steam won't work in Russia. That aged well. What's ironic to me is that, movie piracy was steadily falling and effectively dead after Netflix launched their streaming-video platform, very similar to how video game piracy started to taper off as Steam gained tracti…

The problem is that Hollywood doesn't understand "commoditize your complement." Having more than one streaming service isn't a big problem, assuming they're priced reasonably. Going from one service with everything for $15 to ten services with a tenth of everything for $15 each isn't really that, but that's not the root of it. Their problem is that people are going to want a single interface to view everything throug…

This is what Roku is attempting -- to control the point of contact (physical TV in living room) and commoditize streaming services. They've been able to squeeze some concessions out of streaming companies in exchange for customer access.

Re: Canadian government proposes website-blocking system for piracy websites

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Post by freeone3000 » Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

thinkingkong wrote: post #5

None of this documnent proposes anything other than an RFP for input on how Canadian content and north american copyright may be addressed. Companies or individuals will likely propose blocking but this is a far cry from even any drafted legislation. The worrying part is bundling canadian content rules along intermediary access to potentially copyright infringing material. That part is peculiar, seeing as theyre tota…

From the government's perspective, they're the same. They want 25% of all content consumed to be Canadian, and piracy is a problem because it interferes with that. Whether someone in America makes money off of Canadian citizens isn't the primary concern.