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New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by yoshyosh »

I always find it interesting how easily we can be fooled by media, magazines, and makeup. We can be so quick to create these false paradigms on what is real. It will be interesting once technology gets to the point where AI robots can create similar illusions.

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by Klinky »

w1ntermute wrote: post #2

It's amazing how Gibson predicted this sort of thing almost 20 years ago: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Idoru

The 1994 anime "Key: The Metal Idol" had a similar idea as well. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Key_the_Metal...

We could also even go back to Fritz Langs's 1927 film Metropolis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%28film%29

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by patio11 »

This is only a little bit weirder on the continuum of what we already do for pop starlets, both in Japan and the United States. Japan has been manufacturing them -- that is totally the right word, too -- for about 30 years. Disney cottoned onto it a bit later. These days producers already have the key personality traits, demographic fit, sound, and marketing campaign for the new brand already planned out prior to launch, then they just need to find the least important component, the actual girl. They have perfected it so instead of the fund-a-thousand-bands-have-one-breakout-success label model they pick that, e.g., Miley Cyrus will be the next big thing for twelve year olds and then they make it happen.

If Disney could produce popstars in a laboratory they would.

For folks interested in how the Japanese content industry does it, see Merry White's books on the Japanese youth culture, particularly as it regards magazines. (They might need an update for the Internet age, but not all that much of one.)

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by FiddlerClamp »

Klinky wrote: post #5
w1ntermute wrote: post #2

It's amazing how Gibson predicted this sort of thing almost 20 years ago: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Idoru

The 1994 anime "Key: The Metal Idol" had a similar idea as well. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Key_the_Metal... We could also even go back to Fritz Langs's 1927 film Metropolis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%28film%29

I was thinking "Sim0ne" from 2002 with Al Pacino: "A producer's film is endangered when his star walks off, so he decides to digitally create an actress to substitute for the star, becoming an overnight sensation that everyone thinks is a real person."

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Post by lsc »

kalleboo wrote: post #4

They also have a flash site where fans can create their own ideal member using parts from the other girls, and then share and rank each other's creations http://www.icenomi.com/oshimen/index.html

sounds like a fairly standard horror movie plot

For example: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303361/>

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by sireat »

Klinky wrote: post #5
w1ntermute wrote: post #2

It's amazing how Gibson predicted this sort of thing almost 20 years ago: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Idoru

The 1994 anime "Key: The Metal Idol" had a similar idea as well. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Key_the_Metal... We could also even go back to Fritz Langs's 1927 film Metropolis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%28film%29

As far as animes go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megazone_23 was probably first, came out in 1985.

The plot development is rather horrible, but idea wise very infuential.

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Post by johnyzee »

w1ntermute wrote: post #2

It's amazing how Gibson predicted this sort of thing almost 20 years ago: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Idoru

Good call, 'Wintermute' :)

Gibson's stuff seems to never feel old, a remarkable achievement for sci-fi stuff from before the internet era.

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