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DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by cblconfederate »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #111
cblconfederate wrote: post #105

The best way to get ppl to stop using chrome is to fork it, and add new experimental functionality that doesnt exist in chrome. I don't know if it's feasible but missing features in new platforms (e.g. VR) will motivate people to switch and then it will become a self-reinforcing loop. Integrating metamask in the browser could be a game changerfor payments and identity management.

Brave browser is essentially Chrome with an integrated ad blocker. It also features rather unintrusive ads that compensate users with cryptocurrency for their attention and can always be turned off. Usage seems to be growing a lot.

I support and promote brave, but i think they shouldn't just focus on the adblocking benefits, but they have the opportunity to bundle additional functionality that will be popular with both devs and users

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by foxhop »

ikornaselur wrote: post #43
erdo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm honestly ok with ads, I am not ok with "personalised" ads

It always surprises me when people say that they're fine with personalised ads, even going so far as saying that if they're getting ads they want them to be personalised. I guess I _can_ understand why, they want them to be potentially useful if they're seeing them... To me though, sure, show me ads, fine, whatever, but don't build them around a profile of me to try to manipulate me directly based on my potential int…

"I'm fine with being manipulated with supernormal stimulus." aka being profiled and then targeted with ads.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by swiley »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #118
tngranados wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are leaving out Safari you are not testing on 95% of the browsers. At least market share wise, which is the only metric that makes sense.

You are correct, but if you don't own a Mac/iPhone, you cannot test on Safari.

You can test with webkit though which is almost the same.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by nicklecompte »

throwaways885 wrote: post #108
nicklecompte wrote: post #62

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DuckDuckGo works really well for 90% of my “searches,” which are basically asking for a specific Wikipedia article / blog / Twitter account / etc, so I don’t have to type in the full URL. But I find DuckDuckGo really bad for some searches where I’m not looking for a specific domain: - searching for papers or technical blog posts is almost useless in DDG. Software stuff in particular seems heavily front-loaded towards…

> lots of lonely white men We don't need that kind of rhetoric on HN. Part of the reason I suspect Bing/DDG return right-leaning content is because grassroots US internet culture itself slants slightly to the right (as it slanted to the left back 10 years ago). Whereas Google pushes authoritative sources heavily, which tend to skew corporate-left. Corporate content is less likely to push flagrant untruths (unlike gra…

It is a plain statement of fact that far-right politics and privacy-focused tech culture in the US are dominated by white men. It is a reasonable inference to suppose that this would explain why DDG tends to overly promote far-right search results.

You really don’t need to be a social justice warrior to understand my point. It is a shame if either of these completely uncontroversial statements offends you, but HN in fact truly does not need your centrist form of political correctness policing legitimate comments.

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Post by wayoutthere »

simias wrote: post #30
propertymagnate wrote: post #17

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Really? I can appreciate not wanting to use DDG for a number of reasons, but because they are pushing for financial legitimacy on the basis that there can be an ad industry but it shouldn't be an arms race? Yes thank you, please make a market out of privacy! edit: I should probably say, please prove that privacy respecting markets are viable, I'm not suggesting the commoditisation of everything, lol.

I use DDG as my main search engine but I share the parent's concerns. In the end an ad-driven business model will always pit the interests of its users vs the interests of the advertisers. Should DDG become ultra-successful, how long until they start making concessions to privacy to increase revenue and growth? After all not so long ago Google themselves were "the good guys" and we were willing to give them the benef…

Honestly I use DDG because in most cases the search results returned are more relevant. I’ll go to google if it’s something that could be explained by a YouTube video or Reddit thread or a Pinterest board, but Google really wants to push you toward the larger sites — even if the content is less relevant.

If I recall DDG doesn’t even use cookies. So they’re showing ads based solely on the search terms, which personally I’m ok with as long as it doesn’t clutter the page too much. Showing me ads when I’m in a discovery mindset is ok and is less intrusive; it’s way worse when you’re in a consumption mindset and the ads are just obnoxious (I’m looking at you, YouTube ads).

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by pojntfx »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #118
tngranados wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are leaving out Safari you are not testing on 95% of the browsers. At least market share wise, which is the only metric that makes sense.

You are correct, but if you don't own a Mac/iPhone, you cannot test on Safari.

You can - use another WebKit-based browser, such as Web[1].

[1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Epiphany

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