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Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

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Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

#21

Keep in mind that when they say Berlin's rents are soaring, it's still comparatively cheap for large cities in Germany.

Irrelevant unless compared to local salaries, which as far as I know, are still lower than the rest of German cities.

Berlin has less than 1% of empty rental apartments which is extremely low.

This means that the rents do actually reflect the real market.

And there is simply no right for a cheap apartment in the center of Berlin.

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

#22
post #11

I wish Berlin would just build more housing instead. For example when I cross the street there is a supermarket. It's a single story building with a huge parking lot around it. Why not make it a multistory building with apartments on top of the supermarket and skip the parking space or put it underground? Why does the city give out building permits for such buildings? There could easily be room for thirty families on…

> ... just build more housing instead.

Exactly. And the Mietendeckel caused new construction to essentially stop completely. Way to go!

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

#23
post #7

It is unconstitutional because it treats people unequally. New people will not find any rentable properties, and will have to stay in hotels paying 10x more. It is just another form of xenophobia.

That is a horrible argument, because the same can be said for land ownership. Isn't it unfair that when I move somewhere, I discover that all the land in that area is already owned by someone else. Why should some old history entitle someone to exclusive ownership of any piece of land, and the ability to charge arbitrary rents for it? The fact of the matter is, first movers have all sorts of unfair advantages over la…

No, this system is more like feudalism or serfdom. When I move in, you expect me to work on your land, so protected class does not have to work.

Young people and foreigners have to pay large taxes and rents, to subside older people.

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

#24

It is unconstitutional because it treats people unequally. New people will not find any rentable properties, and will have to stay in hotels paying 10x more. It is just another form of xenophobia.

> It is unconstitutional because it treats people unequally.

Wrong, it was declared unconstitutional because only the federal government is allowed to pass such a measure. Our federal construction minister "Voll-Horst" Seehofer is free to regulate rents any time he wants, but unfortunately all he has been doing for the last four years is to deny systemic issues in police all day.

> New people will not find any rentable properties, and will have to stay in hotels paying 10x more.

So what? Without rent control poor people are forced out of the homes they grew up in, this is certainly worse than tech hipsters having to pay for hotels.

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

#25

It is unconstitutional because it treats people unequally. New people will not find any rentable properties, and will have to stay in hotels paying 10x more. It is just another form of xenophobia.

The Berlin rent cap is different from rent caps elsewhere, say SF. The Berlin rent cap includes new contracts, too.

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

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post #11

I wish Berlin would just build more housing instead. For example when I cross the street there is a supermarket. It's a single story building with a huge parking lot around it. Why not make it a multistory building with apartments on top of the supermarket and skip the parking space or put it underground? Why does the city give out building permits for such buildings? There could easily be room for thirty families on…

But they won't. What does that tell you about the politicians promoting this rent control policy?

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

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post #2

> The court ruling found that since the federal government had already made a law regulating rents, a state government could not impose its own law that infringed upon that That's somewhat inaccurate, because "infringing" doesn't come into play. The German Constitution clearly delineates things that the federal government may regulate, things that the state governments may regulate, and things that both may regulate.…

That sounds exactly like ‘infringing’ to me. In what way is it not?

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

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post #11

I wish Berlin would just build more housing instead. For example when I cross the street there is a supermarket. It's a single story building with a huge parking lot around it. Why not make it a multistory building with apartments on top of the supermarket and skip the parking space or put it underground? Why does the city give out building permits for such buildings? There could easily be room for thirty families on…

Berlin has enough space and I guess the pressure on properties outside the ring (e.g. Marzahn/Marienfeld) is less. However if everyone wants to move to Mitte/kreuzölln, then this creates lots of competition.

Re: Berlin rent cap overturned by Germany's top court

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post #11

I wish Berlin would just build more housing instead. For example when I cross the street there is a supermarket. It's a single story building with a huge parking lot around it. Why not make it a multistory building with apartments on top of the supermarket and skip the parking space or put it underground? Why does the city give out building permits for such buildings? There could easily be room for thirty families on…

> ... just build more housing instead. Exactly. And the Mietendeckel caused new construction to essentially stop completely. Way to go!

This is utterly wrong. https://taz.de/Mehr-Baugenehmigungen-in-Berlin/!5706294/
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