Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
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Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#2Is this about the AI or about the use of regular technology that could hurt citizens? Facial recognition and pattern recognition both seem like tech that isn't necessarily AI but are mentioned in the article.
If it's about AI, where is the line? Does reinforcement learning count? What about deep learning? Neural networks? 5 clever if statements?
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#3Europe is going to need to cut itself off from the rest of the world if it really wants a market with much stricter rules than its global competitors. It already has totally asymmetric relationships with its trading partners, where Europe sells mostly luxury goods which can easily be boycotted. Germany, of all countries, is unwilling to acknowledge a genocide to protect their auto industry.
It wont be a total segregation, but it will start to look something like the Amish. A functioning way of life, cottage industries and great donuts, Don't expect any rockets to Mars though.
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#4Europe is going to need to cut itself off from the rest of the world if it really wants a market with much stricter rules than its global competitors. It already has totally asymmetric relationships with its trading partners, where Europe sells mostly luxury goods which can easily be boycotted. Germany, of all countries, is unwilling to acknowledge a genocide to protect their auto industry. It wont be a total segrega…
Sounds good. Respect for employment standards and the environment with fewer billionaires’ vanity projects. Sign me up.
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#5Is this about the AI or about the use of regular technology that could hurt citizens? Facial recognition and pattern recognition both seem like tech that isn't necessarily AI but are mentioned in the article. If it's about AI, where is the line? Does reinforcement learning count? What about deep learning? Neural networks? 5 clever if statements?
> Social scoring systems, such as those launched in China that track the trustworthiness of people and businesses, are classified as "contravening the Union values" and are going to be banned.
> The proposal also wants to prohibit AI systems that cause harm to people by manipulating their behavior, opinions or decisions; exploit or target people's vulnerabilities; and for mass surveillance.
> many technologies currently in use in Europe today, such as algorithms used to scan CVs, make creditworthiness assessments, hand out social security benefits or asylum and visa applications, or help judges make decisions, would be labeled as "high risk," and would be subject to extra scrutiny.
> One of the Commission’s requirements in the draft are that data sets do not “incorporate any intentional or unintentional biases” which may lead to discrimination.
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#6Like with everything else they will carve out exceptions for themselves
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#7Europe is going to need to cut itself off from the rest of the world if it really wants a market with much stricter rules than its global competitors. It already has totally asymmetric relationships with its trading partners, where Europe sells mostly luxury goods which can easily be boycotted. Germany, of all countries, is unwilling to acknowledge a genocide to protect their auto industry. It wont be a total segrega…
No rockets to Mars because all of the luxury hotels are on the moon?
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#8Is this about the AI or about the use of regular technology that could hurt citizens? Facial recognition and pattern recognition both seem like tech that isn't necessarily AI but are mentioned in the article. If it's about AI, where is the line? Does reinforcement learning count? What about deep learning? Neural networks? 5 clever if statements?
> Is this about the AI or about the use of regular technology that could hurt citizens
I would think the intend is about technology that could hurt citizens. More like responsible use of technologies. As a tech I support this kind of initiative. Anything allows software to identify person become a slippery slop to totalitarian government (in this day and age it won't just be government, also include trans-nation corporations).
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#9Yesterday's discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26809535
Re: Europe eyes strict rules for artificial intelligence
#10Is this about the AI or about the use of regular technology that could hurt citizens? Facial recognition and pattern recognition both seem like tech that isn't necessarily AI but are mentioned in the article. If it's about AI, where is the line? Does reinforcement learning count? What about deep learning? Neural networks? 5 clever if statements?
> Social scoring systems, such as those launched in China that track the trustworthiness of people and businesses, are classified as "contravening the Union values" and are going to be banned. > The proposal also wants to prohibit AI systems that cause harm to people by manipulating their behavior, opinions or decisions; exploit or target people's vulnerabilities; and for mass surveillance. > many technologies curren…
> algorithms used to scan CVs
so "5 clever if statements" (which most CV parsers are, if that wasn't clear) too are subject to extra scrutiny depending on application being labeled high risk or not.
I'm not sure how to feel about this. I feel it's good intentions but marketed wrong.
Why not just say, we will evaluate critical software like we evaluate other critical engineering projects/infrastructure? Why mix in AI?