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Ten years of OP-1

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Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Sure. But that's not why most people buy it. Just like most people don't buy a Rolex Submariner because they regularly do deep dives in the ocean.

Dive watches aren't for diving, divers use dive computers. But lots of musicians seem to use OP-1s...

There were no dive computers in 1960. Read up Rolex Submariner history. It actually started as a tool and was used by divers for decades.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Also, for that much cash, I'd expect something bigger (therefore better interaction unless you have tiny hands) and more robust physically.

The size is arguably the OP-1's "killer feature." It's closest competitors in terms of capability (meaning music-specific devices, not like an iPad or something) are all _way_ bigger and less portable. It's also one of the most solidly built pieces of tech I've handled.

Granted I've not held the actual device. But it just doesn't look like something that would survive being taken to gigs.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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I have literally bought mini-usb cables on 3 different occasions to use my OP-1. I lose them all the time, as I have about a thousand (no joke) USB cables and 3-5 mini-USB among them. I bought 20x mini-USB as my new mobile phone uses it now and I didn't want to keep not finding them when I need them.

This is why I bought dollar store plastic boxes for my cables and put them in specific categories. I have one box for microUSB, one for USB-C, one for mini, one for HDMI, etc. It's been great in reducing clutter and finding a cable. Cables create tangled messes in a way that most things do not, and it's been great that my drawers are mostly free of cables now.

I bought the plastic bins a few months ago, now I'm just waiting for having an uninterrupted attention span long enough to sort all of my cables (or the pandemic to be over so I can pay someone else to come over and do it for me).

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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The first time I saw an OP-1 was the MoMa design store. It took me a few minutes to realize that expensive synthesizers are the new unplayed, high-end electric guitars that boomers like to buy.

Sadly, it’s time to sell my beloved Juno 60 as they are starting to sell for upwards of 3000$. Beautiful sounding instrument though.

Modulars and multifunctional devices like the OP-1 or Octatrack seem to be what "the kids" are interested in, if they buy new hardware - there is just more "bang for the buck" when you go with those options. Vintage synths are fun curiosities, but with prices skyrocketing, most everyone turns to the very accurate software reproductions to actually use the sounds.

It's a very rapid divergence between collectors and users.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Teenage Engineering is a frustrating company. On the one hand, they set out to create some of the most fun music equipment you can own: their Pocket Operator line is awesome for beginners of the hardware world, and they've consistently innovated with their grooveboxes. The problem? They have absolutely no respect for their pricing model. The OP-1 used to cost $800, which was already a big ask for a microprocessor, OL…

People have been making the same argument about Apple for years. Execution matters. I'll pay a premium for a product that works and has a high quality product design.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Probably hyperbole, but I assume OP is implying they lose the cable between charges due to infrequent use.

Are we implying the battery life is so good that one only needs to be charged once every long often? Otherwise, how cluttered are you to lose a cable every time in between charges? Stick it in a drawer with all of the other ones. Just seems like a really weak strawman

Op-1 is known for ridiculously long battery life

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Teenage Engineering is a frustrating company. On the one hand, they set out to create some of the most fun music equipment you can own: their Pocket Operator line is awesome for beginners of the hardware world, and they've consistently innovated with their grooveboxes. The problem? They have absolutely no respect for their pricing model. The OP-1 used to cost $800, which was already a big ask for a microprocessor, OL…

I don’t feel that an Octatrack/Digitakt/Digitone is quite a replacement for an OP-1. They may be better sequencers (I don’t have the relevant knowledge to claim whether or not they are), but I’ve always gotten the impression from professional musicians and composers that the appeal of the OP-1 is a combination of form factor and portability. It has keys in a piano layout which makes it easy to play on and it is in a…

Indeed. A closer comparison would be something like the Korg Electribe, which while quite fun in it's own right, is nowhere near as capable as the OP-1. Though it is quite a bit cheaper (about $600 AUD or so)

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Teenage Engineering is a frustrating company. On the one hand, they set out to create some of the most fun music equipment you can own: their Pocket Operator line is awesome for beginners of the hardware world, and they've consistently innovated with their grooveboxes. The problem? They have absolutely no respect for their pricing model. The OP-1 used to cost $800, which was already a big ask for a microprocessor, OL…

I bought my OP-1 at a steal for $600 two years back. I'd pay $1200 for it today, maybe $1600. There's a lot of more technically capable stand-alone gear that can be had for less of course. My MPC Live is what my finished (not good compared to others, I'm just an amateur making video game soundtracks for kids I teach game dev to) songs ultimately come out of, and the Octatrack is something I've really enjoyed playing…

For $1100, I would rather get an iPad Pro and go the software synth route.

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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This page is nuts: https://teenage.engineering/products/op-1/anniversary/made-o... The crazy part about it is that they only really mention the bits that show the OP1 in a primary means, you can find every case of a modern musical team making something and find an OP-1 somewhere. Taylor Swift? Easy. Despite the clear flaws and price, the OP-1 just does something for creativity. Also: This is not seen in the list as t…

A couple other sightings of my own:

Nine Inch Nails live rig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXEvNUjgCg

Zola Jesus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx6hFRW3Lyg

Dan Deacon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEwpOKhLT7E

(The Teenage Engineering page includes, amongst many others, Depeche Mode, Ariane Grande, Timbaland, Animal Collective, Deadmau5, Usher, Bon Iver, Childish Gambino...)

Re: Ten years of OP-1

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Probably hyperbole, but I assume OP is implying they lose the cable between charges due to infrequent use.

Are we implying the battery life is so good that one only needs to be charged once every long often? Otherwise, how cluttered are you to lose a cable every time in between charges? Stick it in a drawer with all of the other ones. Just seems like a really weak strawman

I have one and have a similar problem. These things take months to lose battery. I often change around where I put cables and etc between the times needed to charge it.
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