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Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by bombcar »

jcpham2 wrote: post #61
throwawayboise wrote: post #55

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Shell history files for admin accounts should be disabled (or at least kept short) for this reason.

But I really really like shell history files if I have to come behind someone!

Interesting idea - make it so all your passwords start with the same four characters (say Ab54) - (it's hard to get good passwords you can safely type at a prompt anyway) and then have a script that searches your history/log files for strings beginning with the Ab54 characters and replacing them with XXXX or similar.

All sorts of horrible side effects can immediately be identified.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by cik »

philliphaydon wrote: post #88
cik wrote: post #82

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Currently I'm on Manjaro. I went through my post-Ubuntu cycle and looked into Gentoo, Mint, Solus, and FreeBSD again. Basically Manjaro made running Arch painless. I'm happy enough for now.

Interesting cos I been looking at manjaro, kde flavour. Bit tired of all the little bugs in ubuntu. Wanted to try arch.

Give it a go. Worst case, VM it. That's how I did my evaluations.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by anyfoo »

tomhoward wrote: post #87
anyfoo wrote: post #12

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I respectfully disagree this time. This is neither "website formatting", nor "back-button breakage", i.e. generally not a presentation issue. This is the Ubuntu website being deliberately annoying about their tracking choices in the hopes that you just click "Accept all" and be done with it. And I really don't know why Ubuntu specifically needs tracking when you just want to read an article on their blog, and persona…

The issue is that it's "shouting into the void". Nobody who can do anything about it is here to read it and heed the feedback, so it's just rage in the HN thread, making it a less pleasant place for everyone here, but without any benefit. The whole reason for having the exception to that rule, being that the author is active in the thread, is that you can address the feedback to them and they can possibly do somethin…

But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN. They may seem like shouting into the void, and then they may either stay that way, or garner enough of a critical mass to reach someone relevant--at a minimum they create discourse in our society.

So why single this one out? I understand why the cited rule exists: Broken website formatting or back-button breakage is indeed not interesting to discuss, mainly also because it's a nuisance problem with one specific site, and therefore indeed rather futile to discuss without the maintainer of the site actually present.

But this issue here is not just a nuisance problem of a broken website, it's an intentional choice by Ubuntu to apply unnecessary tracking to readers of their blog articles, and top it up with some dark patterns to coax their reads into accepting that. It's both something with much more intent than a broken website, and a systemic issue in our industry.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by knorker »

fsflover wrote: post #67
knorker wrote: post #62

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I run such less trusted programs on other machines . The privilege elevation attack surface is just too big on a normal Linux system. That's why I think intra-user isolation is better. I would feel so much better if my browser could just access its settings, the download directory, and read access outside my home directory (for libs and such).

> I run such less trusted programs on other machines . You could probably use Qubes OS instead.

I tried that for a while. Don't remember why I gave up, but it could have been abysmal youtube performance or laptop suspend issues.

It's been a while, though. But now I'm also spoiled with Sway. Haven't checked if I can keep Sway on qubes.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by tomhoward »

anyfoo wrote: post #93
tomhoward wrote: post #87

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The issue is that it's "shouting into the void". Nobody who can do anything about it is here to read it and heed the feedback, so it's just rage in the HN thread, making it a less pleasant place for everyone here, but without any benefit. The whole reason for having the exception to that rule, being that the author is active in the thread, is that you can address the feedback to them and they can possibly do somethin…

But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN. They may seem like shouting into the void, and then they may either stay that way, or garner enough of a critical mass to reach someone relevant--at a minimum they create discourse in our society. So why single this one out? I understand why the cited rule exists: Broken website formatting or back-button breakage is indeed not interesting to discuss, mainly…

The site’s guiding principle is “intellectual curiosity”. That’s why Dang “singles out” your comment (which he’s not really doing, he often pulls people up for off-topic rage commenting).

> But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN

You’re conflating your style of comment with posted articles, where the author explores a topic, discusses it in depth and proposes a solution. And sure, sometimes those kinds of articles convey some anger or stir some in the reader. But they still have to gratify intellectual curiosity to be considered good HN content.

Why don’t you try writing an article like that?

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by anyfoo »

tomhoward wrote: post #95
anyfoo wrote: post #93

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But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN. They may seem like shouting into the void, and then they may either stay that way, or garner enough of a critical mass to reach someone relevant--at a minimum they create discourse in our society. So why single this one out? I understand why the cited rule exists: Broken website formatting or back-button breakage is indeed not interesting to discuss, mainly…

The site’s guiding principle is “intellectual curiosity”. That’s why Dang “singles out” your comment (which he’s not really doing, he often pulls people up for off-topic rage commenting). > But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN You’re conflating your style of comment with posted articles, where the author explores a topic, discusses it in depth and proposes a solution. And sure, sometimes those k…

It wasn't my comment, it was someone else's comment. I just disagree with this decision in particular, for the stated reasons, which also elaborate on why I think this would have been a valuable topic of discussion. dang can choose to incorporate that (e.g. if indication is that others feel the same), or ignore it.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by [deleted] »

anyfoo wrote: post #96
tomhoward wrote: post #95

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The site’s guiding principle is “intellectual curiosity”. That’s why Dang “singles out” your comment (which he’s not really doing, he often pulls people up for off-topic rage commenting). > But the same applies to many, many other discussions on HN You’re conflating your style of comment with posted articles, where the author explores a topic, discusses it in depth and proposes a solution. And sure, sometimes those k…

It wasn't my comment, it was someone else's comment. I just disagree with this decision in particular, for the stated reasons, which also elaborate on why I think this would have been a valuable topic of discussion. dang can choose to incorporate that (e.g. if indication is that others feel the same), or ignore it.

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Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by philliphaydon »

cik wrote: post #92
philliphaydon wrote: post #88

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Interesting cos I been looking at manjaro, kde flavour. Bit tired of all the little bugs in ubuntu. Wanted to try arch.

Give it a go. Worst case, VM it. That's how I did my evaluations.

Shoved it on my laptop, killed off the kubuntu partition. Man it’s so much better. No screen tearing out of the box!!! Just works.

Re: Private Home Directories for Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by philliphaydon »

cik wrote: post #92
philliphaydon wrote: post #88

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Interesting cos I been looking at manjaro, kde flavour. Bit tired of all the little bugs in ubuntu. Wanted to try arch.

Give it a go. Worst case, VM it. That's how I did my evaluations.

Tho I cannot get proper VS Code installed :/
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