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Re: Yamauchi No.10 Family Office

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Reminds me of the type of websites I and a lot of people used to create in flash in the early 2000.

Except this website actually works and sound is default off and you can switch to a more accesible view :) Still, I kinda miss the creativity of the early web.

Sound is default on here (it does need some time to load, though).

Re: Yamauchi No.10 Family Office

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post #39

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I love Nintendo as much as the next guy but they're hypocrites when they come to comments like the above because they're second only to Disney with regards to how aggressively they chase after their IP. So many fun indie projects have been taken down because of Nintendo. And we're not even talking about commercial games but stuff kids have thrown together as tribute to Nintendo and have put online. YouTube reviews, T…

I don't think this is unique to Nintendo though. I feel like it's a Japan Culture thing. There's a kick start project for Street Fighter history where a studio backed out of doing an interview due to it not being sanctioned by Capcom. When ever I need to work with companies in Japan, it's a struggle of bureaucracy and politics.

I don't think it's a uniquely Japanese thing but there's definitely a culture there. However my point is Nintendo aren't just passively refusing to work with fans, they're pro-actively shutting down fan projects, Twitch streams and YouTube review channels in ways that other Japanese studios are not. It's also not just Nintendo of Japan doing it, their American company also behaves the same.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/nintendo_issues_ma...

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/11/twitch_streamers_b...

I have friends who stream retro games via Twitch and the only they've ever had infractions from Twitch is when Nintendo have reported them for playing a retro Nintendo game without Nintendo's consent.

There's also bunch of YouTube videos from disgruntled reviewers moaning about how they've been treated by Nintendo, which I can't find right now.

So this isn't something I've just made up. It's a common gripe with the retro gaming and streaming community.

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I don't think this is unique to Nintendo though. I feel like it's a Japan Culture thing. There's a kick start project for Street Fighter history where a studio backed out of doing an interview due to it not being sanctioned by Capcom. When ever I need to work with companies in Japan, it's a struggle of bureaucracy and politics.

Japan has strict IP laws with no concept of fair use, so you do need to get permission for a lot of things. That's part of why entertainment journalism like games/music is super bland there. (Of course there's also a big unofficial fanart for profit community, which some companies tolerate because it gets them an artist pipeline.)

Nintendo of America are just as aggressive and, as I've mentioned before, other Japanese games studios aren't nearly as proactive in shutting down fan content. Sega, for example, practically endorse it.

As someone who's actively involved in the retro gaming community on Twitch, there is a very stark difference between Nintendo and almost every other studio.

Re: Yamauchi No.10 Family Office

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Besides being a beautiful website, I was rather touched by their call to action: "Seeking stability only clouds your soul. Fear of failing only kills the seeds of innovation. We must create a more exciting future where people feel free to dream and leap into a world of possibilities. We must create a freer future where people are eager to truly live." It's hard not to love Nintendo. Also TLDR for those that didn't sc…

I love Nintendo as much as the next guy but they're hypocrites when they come to comments like the above because they're second only to Disney with regards to how aggressively they chase after their IP. So many fun indie projects have been taken down because of Nintendo. And we're not even talking about commercial games but stuff kids have thrown together as tribute to Nintendo and have put online. YouTube reviews, T…

They are literally saying make your own IP and here is money to do it in your own company that they just passively invest in with no relation to Nintendo as a parent company.

They're saying grow the fuck up, and acknowledging that since that’s so hard for an entire generation they’ve inspired, they are trying to inspire these adult-children again with venture capital to create new things.

That’s the opposite of hypocrisy. Pursuing their own property rights to keep their property valuable? Sell them some shares and they’ll make sure you have that expectation with your IP too.

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Yeah, I get that. I feel like the trademark and copyright system is set up that way where lawyers are incentivized to defend IP. Some consider it a must, to protect those IPs. At any rate, I would love to see something like a decentralized Disney or Nintendo spring up in the world. Like a decentralized universe of open source characters that people could interact with and riff on. Something like what happens with mem…

But isn’t it the strict control of brand and image that make those characters so enjoyed. If you let anyone do anything they can change/misrepresent the brand in an irreversible way... just like Pepe...

I have no issue with companies shutting down content that could be seen as harming their image. But the vast majority of fan content is complimentary. For example, do you think a Twitch stream of a retro game is somehow harming or misrepresenting Nintendo's brand?

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post #39

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I love Nintendo as much as the next guy but they're hypocrites when they come to comments like the above because they're second only to Disney with regards to how aggressively they chase after their IP. So many fun indie projects have been taken down because of Nintendo. And we're not even talking about commercial games but stuff kids have thrown together as tribute to Nintendo and have put online. YouTube reviews, T…

They are literally saying make your own IP and here is money to do it in your own company that they just passively invest in with no relation to Nintendo as a parent company. They're saying grow the fuck up, and acknowledging that since that’s so hard for an entire generation they’ve inspired, they are trying to inspire these adult-children again with venture capital to create new things. That’s the opposite of hypoc…

How does going after Twitch streamers playing retro games fall into any of what you've said? Because Nintendo have targeted them.

How does YouTube reviewers fall into that category? Because Nintendo have targeted them too.

You don't realise just how far reaching Nintendo's lawyers are and thus just assume it's the usual case of "They're stealing from us!" (to quote Pirates of Silicon Valley).

Re: Yamauchi No.10 Family Office

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For those who don't know, a Family Office is "a privately held company that handles investment management and wealth management for a wealthy family, generally one with over $100 million in investable assets" (as per Wikipedia) relating to the Nintendo Founder family

Family offices are controversial at the moment in the US because they can be as large as a hedge fund, yet have no regulation.

There was a recent meltdown at Archegos that cost institutions several billion dollars involving a family office:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-markets-blocktrades-r...

They're also a good gig if you're a CPA and one of your clients becomes a whale, which means you can work that one account and don't need to service 1,000+ little accounts annually.

(My CPA/EA got "difficult", so I dumped her and just do it myself now. Cheaper, faster and less headaches.)

Re: Yamauchi No.10 Family Office

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post #67

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They are literally saying make your own IP and here is money to do it in your own company that they just passively invest in with no relation to Nintendo as a parent company. They're saying grow the fuck up, and acknowledging that since that’s so hard for an entire generation they’ve inspired, they are trying to inspire these adult-children again with venture capital to create new things. That’s the opposite of hypoc…

How does going after Twitch streamers playing retro games fall into any of what you've said? Because Nintendo have targeted them. How does YouTube reviewers fall into that category? Because Nintendo have targeted them too. You don't realise just how far reaching Nintendo's lawyers are and thus just assume it's the usual case of "They're stealing from us!" (to quote Pirates of Silicon Valley).

Ah okay, yes I’m aware they do that and they should call off the hounds. This isn’t the thread for that. It is very easy to compartmentalize these things, just like the other people making real money and wealth in this world do. This is a private equity firm from a securities trader. Nintendo was their tech play where they also got to premine all the shares. Its cute you and others have been inspired by that alpha generating bet. That was a complete thought.
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