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How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#41
post #8

TL;DR: you have many unread books, here's 4 more to add to the unread pile. Don't read all your books, accept that you'll fail and redefine success.

Not sure if this comment was meant in earnest or not, but to be quite honest, "accept that you will sometimes fail" and "redefine what success means" were actually two very important steps in my journey to accept what my limitations were. I didn't get diagnosed until 28, meaning I had had a fairly long life of not succeeding at things, but also not realizing that I flat out was unable to succeed at them. So having to readjust my self-image to include this idea of a disability was quite challenging.

If you don't accept that you are going to fail at certain things or at certain times, then your failures will feel like your fault -- if only you had tried harder, if only you had worked more. By accepting that you have real limitations and will sometimes fail, each new failure doesn't have such a strong sting anymore. Instead, you are able to recognize it isn't your fault; you can pass the blame to your disorder, so to speak. Then, redefining what success means for you allows you to celebrate victories again. Ten years ago I never would have considered things like "I haven't been late to a meeting in two weeks" as a success to be celebrated, but now I do, so I'm able to extract some sort of satisfaction out of life with this janky brain instead of a never-ending series of disappointments.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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This article describes a problem or behavior that I don’t see with ADHD (note: I am raising an ADHD child). What I observe are these two problems:

1. Poor reading comprehension.

2. Disqualified completion. Disqualified completion means the inability to differentiate poor completion rates (actually completing the material) from a loss of interest resulting in poor completion thereby believing the material is completely read when either it was never read or is entirely lost from memory.

The behaviors are interesting to observe because the child with ADHD appears to read with ease even if there is nothing to show for it, as in no memory of the material. I have raised children with dyslexia who struggle to read anything but know exactly what they have read, an opposite behavior.

Notes and hints do not appear to be a solution for the ADHD related behaviors. What we are trying to work on is persistence such that an uninteresting focus becomes excruciatingly exhausting very quickly. We try to remove talking, excuses, bullshitting, and unrelated movements from the event of focus to practice increasing focus duration.

Eventually we want to get to a spot where the child can self identify when focus is lost so that they can stop the focused activity at hand, take a quick break, and then resume the activity. We aren’t there yet. The biggest challenge is eliminating excuses and justifications that prioritize the distractions over the activity of focus. In a person without ADHD these sorts of qualifiers would come across as deceit or lies, but for a person with ADHD these behaviors appear to be a self regulator for emotional continuity that occurs arrhythmic to the focus by which emotions are generated.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#43

I find this blog post fairly unhelpful, insofar as not only are not all ADHD people alike, the “tips” here seemed thin at best. I’m an avid reader and in spite of my ADHD, I manage to read hundreds of pages a week (if not a day), between books, stuff online, and periodicals. My tips: Embrace reading multiple things at once. I’m often in the middle of three or four different books at once. Some I’ll finish immediately…

Is there a known consensus on book reading when suffering from Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder; it depends on the person, severity?

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#44
post #31
post #6

When it comes to long, difficult slogs, I prefer audiobooks. Mostly consumed when exercising outside in nature. Imagine reading Moby Dick, and the author goes into a long boring diatribe about 19th century cetology. If you're sitting at home reading a physical book, pushing through is a long, difficult process that requires continuous effortful willpower. But when you're running a 10km, at worst you just zone out uti…

As somebody with ADHD, I can't consume audiobooks at all. My mind just starts to wander 10 seconds in and eventually I realize I haven't been listening for the past half-hour. It's the same with talks or lectures on YouTube, though I've found that putting them at 2x speed helps to keep my attention. I really do need a book in text form, because it allows me full control over how quickly or in what order I consume it.…

Same, with regard to audiobooks. The only thing I find them useful for is helping me get to sleep.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#45

This article describes a problem or behavior that I don’t see with ADHD (note: I am raising an ADHD child). What I observe are these two problems: 1. Poor reading comprehension. 2. Disqualified completion. Disqualified completion means the inability to differentiate poor completion rates (actually completing the material) from a loss of interest resulting in poor completion thereby believing the material is completel…

How much time have you spent reading aloud to your kid?

Does the kid have the same trouble following material heard read aloud that they have for material they are reading themselves?

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Anecdotally the times in the past when I would forget material I was reading came from either being profoundly sleep deprived (e.g. pulling an all-nighter in college) or mentally highly engaged with some other idea/problem and therefore extremely distracted while trying to read.

More recently (I have a 4-year-old) I have been doing lots of reading of kids books, and have developed the new ability to read a familiar (or unfamiliar but simple) picture book aloud including funny voices for all of the characters etc. from start to finish, while working on an unrelated problem in my head, and end up with no memory of what I read in the picture book or what happened.

Reading picture books is apparently (sometimes) now separate enough from my conscious attention that the effect is almost like short-term memory loss.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#46
post #32

For the benefit of people like me, I'm quoting the part of the article that should have been at the top. > 1. Create a Word or Google document to track your books if spreadsheets fill you with fear. > 2. You don’t need to read the whole book. Write down your ONE thing from the part of the book you did read. > 3. Review the document weekly, to keep the ideas fresh in your mind. > 4. If you find that you stopped implem…

Thank you so much. They make articles for people with ADHD then make it unreadable for them.

Articles on procrastination have a similar problem and I would tell you exactly what that problem was but I never finish reading the articles...

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

#47
post #6

When it comes to long, difficult slogs, I prefer audiobooks. Mostly consumed when exercising outside in nature. Imagine reading Moby Dick, and the author goes into a long boring diatribe about 19th century cetology. If you're sitting at home reading a physical book, pushing through is a long, difficult process that requires continuous effortful willpower. But when you're running a 10km, at worst you just zone out uti…

> the author goes into a long boring diatribe about 19th century cetology. If you're sitting at home reading a physical book //

Don't you just scan ahead and jump to the next bit? I have a problem with doing this with novels I like, if it's getting intense then I'll want to skip/scan-read to get to the next tranche of "action". I do the same with TV/films, if there's a filler scene, just skip to the next scene.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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The article lacked substance but I am glad that we are talking about reading with ADHD here.

I don't feel guilty about not finishing books because most of the times if I force myself to finish a book that I don't find interesting enough, I don't remember the information in the book anyway.

Over time I have learned to trust my brain, and figured that it will remember the important parts I read. If the book bores me then probably there is nothing interesting in it for me.

Most of my life I read books without taking notes, and I would go through them thinking that I understand everything, but in the end I would miss deeper connections and wouldn't connect them to the information I already possess.

Now, I read non-fiction books with taking notes and taking notes makes me stop and think about what I am reading and enables me to make deeper connections with what I already know and improves retaining. Also shifting from reading to note taking and going back helps my ADD brain. I read a couple books at a time, and when I get bored of one, I shift to another one that interests me. I choose my books around one topic, and this topical similarity makes my ADHD a boon because this way I can make those books talk to each other and improve my understanding of the subject. I used to take all my notes longhand before, but now I type really fast and writing longhand feels antiquated now. I also love to be able to search my notes and use my notes as a second-brain.

I read both from kindle and paper-books. The change from kindle to paper also helps my brain. The variety increases my concentration.

When I am reading fiction, I try to visualize everything I read because if I stop visualizing, it turns into eye training, I think other things, or just read and don't remember anything. If I figure out I am eye training instead of reading, I stop reading the book and come back later.

I hope this helps.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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This article describes a problem or behavior that I don’t see with ADHD (note: I am raising an ADHD child). What I observe are these two problems: 1. Poor reading comprehension. 2. Disqualified completion. Disqualified completion means the inability to differentiate poor completion rates (actually completing the material) from a loss of interest resulting in poor completion thereby believing the material is completel…

How much time have you spent reading aloud to your kid? Does the kid have the same trouble following material heard read aloud that they have for material they are reading themselves? * * * Anecdotally the times in the past when I would forget material I was reading came from either being profoundly sleep deprived (e.g. pulling an all-nighter in college) or mentally highly engaged with some other idea/problem and the…

I have been reading more aloud to the child at night for about 20-30 minutes before bed. Sometimes the material is well received other times the child has snuck a book or device into bed and has no idea what was read. I haven’t determined how well the information is retained yet.

On an unrelated note playing games with the child results in conditions that look like sleep deprivation. They cannot slow the game down with excess talking or bullshitting and after about 10 minutes become utterly exhausted forgetting the game rules and wanting to lay their head on the board. I do understand that some level of mental fatigue is common to children that age, but it appears intensely amplified in the child with ADHD especially compared to dyslexic children who seem to have a longer period of focus than normal.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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This article describes a problem or behavior that I don’t see with ADHD (note: I am raising an ADHD child). What I observe are these two problems: 1. Poor reading comprehension. 2. Disqualified completion. Disqualified completion means the inability to differentiate poor completion rates (actually completing the material) from a loss of interest resulting in poor completion thereby believing the material is completel…

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