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China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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On an optimistic note, I am not convinced that China is going to win any cultural wars. America, for all its problems, still is essentially a leader for much of the developing world, at least in terms of culture. People watch American shows, know American celebrities, listen to American music, etc. This is facilitated by the fact that these cultural elements are pretty diverse and are open to immigrants. As in, a guy…

Judging by the race turmoil in the West, being an ethnostate is the only sane thing to do. China's taking care of China and the Chinese, while the West are busy repenting for the crimes that happened hundreds of years ago. And as you've noticed yourself, China's happy to manipulate Hollywood into publishing what they want, no need to create their own.

There's a certain amount of race turmoil in the US but a lot of ethnically mixed places do ok. I live in London normally and it's very mixed and works ok really.

Also in terms of Chinese culture the very racially mixed Singapore does rather better in most respects than China.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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The problem here is the definition of the term "progressive". If you take it to mean "forward-looking" then yes, being progressive is a sure strategy for success in the long run, even if such success may come at a price in the short term. This, however, is not what most current "progressive" ideologies do, instead of looking forward they often look backward in time in search for grievances in need of redress. This, i…

Identify politics has been on the rise for a long time. The right heavily contribute to identity politics. See: openly racist GQP leaders, transgender bathroom ban, mexican "caravans" conveniently appearing in the news around election time, satanic panic, homophobia, muslim ban, "Kung flu". In no way can you place the blame for the rise of identity politics squarely on progressives. I get the feeling that most people…

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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Identify politics has been on the rise for a long time. The right heavily contribute to identity politics. See: openly racist GQP leaders, transgender bathroom ban, mexican "caravans" conveniently appearing in the news around election time, satanic panic, homophobia, muslim ban, "Kung flu". In no way can you place the blame for the rise of identity politics squarely on progressives. I get the feeling that most people…

Seriously? "Mexican Caravans"? 18,000 UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN were "dumped" across the US-Mexico border in MARCH of 2021. And the current administration refuses to admit the "may" be a problem. Your selective ignorance is astounding.

Please don't use HN for political or ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that do it.

Crossing into personal attack and name-calling is particularly not cool. No more of that, please.

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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Numbers > adjectives Chinese has a booming middle class as well as a lot of poor people.

CCP shills do nothing to me.I hope CCP pays you well for spewing this "BuT We lIFt 300M ppl oUT of pOVeRty".

Nationalistic flamewar will get you banned here. You did that repeatedly in this thread, and you broke the site guidelines egregiously with this one. Please read the rules and do no more of this on HN.

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I'm not going to ban you right now because you've posted other comments that are within the intended use of the site, but you've been seriously abusing it also. Comments like this one and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26697627 are not ok.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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It's because we stopped focusing on creating things, and instead started laser focusing on making sure that everybody gets exactly the same amount of everything all the time. It's ridiculous. We are trust fund children who don't understand where the money came from, and it will be our undoing. Twitter, NYT, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and the like have monetized dividing us, and they have a multi-billion dollar a year budge…

Sounds like you're just a miserable republican who's upset that other people don't like being treated like shit

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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And I am betting that CCP will implode within the decade. If west is in decline please stop sending your top students abroad to study (and stay there). Great job promoting brain drain. I am tired of this unfounded narrative that the west is in decline. No, it’s not. It’s actually getting stronger by the day especially the US.

It's been remarkably stable so far. The only way I could see it going is if Xi dies and is replaced by a Gorbachev type.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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"ITS GAZE fixed on the prize of becoming rich and strong, China has spent the past 40 years as a risk-averse bully. Quick to inflict pain on smaller powers, it has been more cautious around any country capable of punching back." The same could be said about the United States' behavior on the international scene these past decades.

I don't like China and find what they're doing in Xinjiang abhorrent (and I believe that the Western media reports are truthful and not just made up shit), but that part of the article made me wonder if the West has been or is as bad, but the Economist (and myself) ignore it because, "Hey, we're the good guys!". There isn't a lot of outrage about miners of rare minerals with dangerous working conditions or poorly pai…

From my knowledge of what is happening in xinjiang, I strongly questions what the western media reports are saying. My opinions are very long so I posted it on medium. I would appreciate it if you have the time to take a look. I offer my perspectives on the issue. https://lty13800.medium.com/my-thoughts-on-xinjiang-daa8d391...

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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On an optimistic note, I am not convinced that China is going to win any cultural wars. America, for all its problems, still is essentially a leader for much of the developing world, at least in terms of culture. People watch American shows, know American celebrities, listen to American music, etc. This is facilitated by the fact that these cultural elements are pretty diverse and are open to immigrants. As in, a guy…

I cancelled Netflix yesterday. Having watched a few things the absolute majority of its largely American content does not interest me at all. If it's any consolation I don't think I've ever watched anything Chinese.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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post #187

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Identify politics has been on the rise for a long time. The right heavily contribute to identity politics. See: openly racist GQP leaders, transgender bathroom ban, mexican "caravans" conveniently appearing in the news around election time, satanic panic, homophobia, muslim ban, "Kung flu". In no way can you place the blame for the rise of identity politics squarely on progressives. I get the feeling that most people…

Please don't use HN for political or ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Understood. I will refrain. Is there something about my comment that's more political than the ones above it? Like I guess I used a lot of buzzwords instead of vague political terms.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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post #314

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CCP shills do nothing to me.I hope CCP pays you well for spewing this "BuT We lIFt 300M ppl oUT of pOVeRty".

Nationalistic flamewar will get you banned here. You did that repeatedly in this thread, and you broke the site guidelines egregiously with this one. Please read the rules and do no more of this on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm not going to ban you right now because you've posted other comments that are within the intended use of the site, but you've been seriously abusing it also. Comments…

What's wrong with the latter? It's a standard practice of indian outsourcing companies like Infosys,Tech Mahinda,TCL...

Also the "lifting out of poverty" is standard propaganda spread by CCP https://www.firstpost.com/world/china-claims-to-have-ended-e...

What's nationalistic about that?

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