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System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Honest question, why is it that whenever any party tries making a new DE/WM it always turns out to be a GNOME derivative? Unity, Cinnamon, Budgie, Pantheon, MATE.. and now COSMIC. Why not choose something else like KDE or XFCE to fork?

Because mostly KDE and XFCE are very customisable with few configuration files doesn't require creating whole new DE

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range. But I agree on the single-thread, it's indeed 12% faster.

I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.

How's the heat? My Inspiron 5505 w/ a 4700U gets egg frying hot under load.

(edit: Not precision, is inspiron.)

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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I've recently switched from my usual MBP upgrade to System 76 (Oryx Pro). While yes, Apple's walled garden does feel like a Rolls Royce compared to anything, the price tag difference this time was just way too step for me to keep buying a new Mac: It was basically 2x or more for roughly similar hardware, if not slightly worse on the MBP side. Overall, using Pop_OS! with its specialized GNOME3 setup has been a bliss,…

iTerm2 is a beauty, is there a closest equivalent on Linux? There seem to be 25 popular choices especially now with the GPU-accelerated ones. Tried a few of the classics like Termite and they all seemed painfully outdated and crappy compared to iTerm.

I like kitty

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Is it? I see Geenbench gives the M1 as having 1733 (single) and 7652 (multi) GeekBench score, whereas a AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U system has 1414 (single) and 8140 (multi), so the M1 is quite faster in single core than it (22%) and slower but close in multi-core (the AMD being 6% faster). And that's with the M1 having 4 slow cores for better battery life / consumption (with 8 full speed cores it would obliterate the 5850…

They're using PassMark instead of Geekbench. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... Apple M1 - CPU Mark: 14,872 / Single thread: 3,630 AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U - CPU Mark: 20,659 / Single thread: 3,237 The AMD is 38.9% faster on the multi-core benchmark, and 10.8% slower on the single-core benchmark.

That's not really surprising, is it? The M1's eight cores are in a big.LITTLE configuration, half of them are not as powerful as the other half.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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A someone that prefers Gnome2 and KDE... Gnome3 and Unity are both ewwww...

I'm using a dozen extensions to make Gnome 3 behave like Gnome 2 as much as I can. No animations, no menu on top, no top bar, task bar at the bottom, no dock, no activities, one virtual desktop per project. That was impossible with Unity.

Have you tried MATE? I haven't, but I believe it's a modernized fork of GNOME 2.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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I wish Ubuntu would maintain a gnome3+ fork like that, with top menu and reasonable file picker, or partner-up with System76. Not because I can't use another distro, but because I think a well-tested default target desktop distro is important and helping the community. I'm still on Ubuntu 20.04 because I need third-party based stuff to run, such as Chromium and Electron-based apps such as Skype and Teams (which howev…

KDE really is the unsung hero of the Linux community

Couldn't agree more.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

Note the latest AMD 5850U chip is 40% faster [1] than the M1 for the same wattage! It really deserves more media exposure than the M1 which has the only merit of beating Intel. [1] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+PRO+585...

I had a laptop with a similar amd cpu and even though it was rated for the same wattage, it was a lot more inefficient. The laptop would get warm just watching youtube videos and the fans would always kick on.

In contrast to the M1 which is so efficient that Apple doesn't even put a fan in it on its lower end models, and it still barely gets warm.

Also the battery life is a lot better on the m1.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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> Note the latest AMD 5850U chip is... Can you buy one today other than the HP EliteBook 845 G8, which starts over $2300? Because you can buy M1 laptops yesterday for less than half that and I can't find any other 5800U series laptops for sale.

Yea, M1's win is more in locking up TSMC's 5nm supply than its genius design. AMD has been struggling to get their slice of TSMC 7nm capacity.

AMDs chip peaks at 4.4GHz vs 3.2GHz. Together they imply 30-40% better IPC. 5nm only offers 15% better performance OR 30% lower power consumption vs 7nm.

In truth though, the A14 design isn’t too much faster than A13 or even A12 despite them being 7nm. Most of its advancements were from clock ramps. I wonder if the hardware layer for x86 kept a lot of resources tied up on that instead of advancing the architecture performance more.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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I seem to be mistaken! Sounds like quite a few models DO have PD now. I guess I am just grumpy my Oryx pro 6 doesn't.

Hard to do USBPD with the Oryx because it's hard to deliver 200W over USBPD (Which has a maximum standardized power delivery of 100W)

Good point! At maximum draw with the GPU going BRRRRRRR I am going to have a bad time; But it would still be nice to have it as an alternate charging option.

Right now I am on battery and am only drawing 28W, so I think it could manage most of the time.

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