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“It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

#21
It's a waste of time is what it is. We don't actually need so many people in the world. So there are a bunch of folks with no real purpose who are bored. They spend their time doom scrolling and pulling others into their void. Some of them also feel the need to vocalize. It would be far better if we just paid everyone $4k a month and otherwise we all minded our own business.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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I remember seing twitter early on and thinking it wasn't too impressive but guessed it was just an MVP and it could become fantastic in a couple of years when they added groups and topics and machine-to-machine and became a messaging backbone of the internet.

Instead they doubled down on being a massive high intensity low value channel: technically impressive yet sad.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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post #15

> Left unsaid, of course, is that ‘the conversation’ at scale is complete garbage Twitter is simply not a conversation platform. The medium is optimized for publishing small blurbs to as many people as possible. It's not designed for serious back-and-forth discussion. It rewards quips and got-ems, not nuanced debate. It's almost like a giant comments section with no subject.

What Marshall McLuhan said.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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post #15

> Left unsaid, of course, is that ‘the conversation’ at scale is complete garbage Twitter is simply not a conversation platform. The medium is optimized for publishing small blurbs to as many people as possible. It's not designed for serious back-and-forth discussion. It rewards quips and got-ems, not nuanced debate. It's almost like a giant comments section with no subject.

This, so much of this. Twitter will just never be the best of the ways to have actual conversations. You just have to ask yourself when has anyone left a twitter exchange with their mind changed? I mean is not like impossible that being said I doubt is a high percentage. In top of that add the fact that a lot of people that grew up on tumblr (with its own h way of having conversations and with its won metalanguage) became a big part of the social justice movements in twitter and you have the perfect explosion. I honestly do not mean that actual and real accountability is bad however when the mob attacks somebody like Joe Rogan they just made him more famous, but when they attack somebody like the kid that said "n*ga guacamoles p*nis" the result is much different. A kid that didnt know quite better had his life destroyed and the lifelihood of his parents too. For those that do not know the life of thta kid and his parents got destroyed. SO instead of accountability and people evolving the dialogue and getting better you have this neopuritan mob destroying lifes, dividing people more and ultimately not changing the incorrect ways of anyone instead you just entrench their positions further. Is cannibalistic.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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It's a waste of time is what it is. We don't actually need so many people in the world. So there are a bunch of folks with no real purpose who are bored. They spend their time doom scrolling and pulling others into their void. Some of them also feel the need to vocalize. It would be far better if we just paid everyone $4k a month and otherwise we all minded our own business.

Scrooge in A Christmas Carol complains about the “excess population,” but I doubt he would support a UBI. Either way, complaining about too many people is not a new notion.

The human race is not a machine to be optimized.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

#27

I never got on the twitter boat. After reading articles like this, I'm glad I never did. However, why doesn't everybody else get off? People must like it enough? Then the cycle will never end.

IMHO Twitter is great, I think I find more interesting things there then HN. I't more how you curate your own feed, don't follow people that are "political" or have some "agenda". My feed is mostly about math, art, physics and EU policy level discussions. Same thing with youtube, you just have to train the AI so it knows the sort of things you like. And don't comment, no one cares.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

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Its not cancel culture because no one was cancelled. A woman posted a shallow and clechéd understanding of what a horror movie is and it went viral. She wasn't banned for "community guidelines", she wasn't fired from her job she didn't have her paypal confiscated. She got some angry emails and retweets for a flippant opinion of the kind she regularly makes irl with zero consequences. This is rule 37 in action and blaming "platforms" is just a call to actually cancel people the author disagrees with.

There is a problem with platforms. But the problem is that they encourage unsuspecting and naive people to pimp their every thought and action for attention from internet strangers in exchange for getting blasted with targeted ads.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

#29
post #9

I think the issue here is human socialization and not twitter or technology. People love to play the "did you see what so-and-so said?" game in all its variants, and as far as I can tell this has been true for millenia. It has nothing to do with a trending topics feature I feel like there are many articles and books that attribute basic elements of human interaction to whatever platform the author was using to observ…

I think you are absolutely right, but that unfortunately means it's Twitter that has to change. We certainly aren't going to alter the design of humans within the time span of one generation.

So we should build communications platforms that account for human nature.

Re: “It's Not Cancel Culture – It's a Platform Failure.”

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was filtered through establishment news sources.

Right, but not on social media. The OP's point.

So called establishment media has in no way been critical of the movement though. Or other adjacent “movements” or ideas.

They couldn’t be even if they wanted and that is the problem. You can’t really trust dishonest media that runs on fear.

“Twitter is not on the masthead of the NYT, but it has become its editor.”

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