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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by michaelmrose »

scoopertrooper wrote: post #205
toolz wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.

Keep in mind only four of those cores on the M1 mac are performance cores. A M1 Mac with 8 performance cores would blow that thing out of the water based on how close they already are.

It seems incredibly likely that such a product would be reserved for the highest end models for example the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro starting at 2400 and 6k respectively and would be properly compared to high end laptops that like the example don't exist yet.

It's nice to see the CPU space heating up in recent years.

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Post by t00ny »

favadi wrote: post #243
skrtskrt wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iTerm2 is a beauty, is there a closest equivalent on Linux? There seem to be 25 popular choices especially now with the GPU-accelerated ones. Tried a few of the classics like Termite and they all seemed painfully outdated and crappy compared to iTerm.

I don’t get the love for iTerm2. I tried it before and see nothing appealing for me over the built in Terminap.app. And it seems to be slower too. On Linux, I just use whatever ship with the distro Gnome Terminal, Konsole... and they work fine.

Same here all my colleagues use it, but I don't see any advantages except maybe for the built-in split view.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by buu700 »

skrtskrt wrote: post #159
fnl wrote: post #93

I've recently switched from my usual MBP upgrade to System 76 (Oryx Pro). While yes, Apple's walled garden does feel like a Rolls Royce compared to anything, the price tag difference this time was just way too step for me to keep buying a new Mac: It was basically 2x or more for roughly similar hardware, if not slightly worse on the MBP side. Overall, using Pop_OS! with its specialized GNOME3 setup has been a bliss,…

iTerm2 is a beauty, is there a closest equivalent on Linux? There seem to be 25 popular choices especially now with the GPU-accelerated ones. Tried a few of the classics like Termite and they all seemed painfully outdated and crappy compared to iTerm.

I originally discovered and started using iTerm2 because I was looking for an OS X equivalent to Yakuake, which is pretty much the same thing as Konsole but with a dropdown/Quake-like UI.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by hardwaresofton »

Just checking in to say I'm loving my Oryx Pro ~1 year later. It's been a fantastic system (I wrote about it when I first got it[0]), and although I use it more as a desktop (it sits on my desktop attached to two monitors with the lid closed) it has been a workhorse for me.

The software and drivers also work fantastically, and are open source -- I've even contributed a line or two.

BTW I use arch :). But I mention that to say it works great on Arch too.

System76 may have actually bring about the era of the linux-first desktop/laptop, and I'm glad I bought it instead of a Lenovo.

[EDIT] whoa the post is from 2019, it's been like 1.5+ years. Time flies.

[0]: https://www.vadosware.io/post/starting-my-journey-with-the-s...

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Post by martey »

clircle wrote: post #185
silisili wrote: post #59

Nice to see! And glad they are...gasp...listening to people. The Gnome devs could learn a lot from that approach. The most popular distros all include a dock. And yet with Gnome 40, they not only refused to add a dock, they moved what gimped dock they had to the bottom of the screen. But you can't see it until you hit the top left corner. I wish I was making that up. (keyboard shortcuts aside, in fairness) Rant aside…

I mostly like Gnome. I have been using it for years. But the development team of Gnome is so closed minded that it makes my head hurt. I asked on the bug tracker if Evince could have a tabs feature, so I can have 10 pdfs open in one Evince window. They asked me to cite a usability study showing that it would objectively improve user experience.

It's clearly unreasonable for a developer to ask a bug reporter to cite a usability study out of the blue.

However, I don't think it's unreasonable for a developer to do so if the person commenting explicitly claims that not having a feature hurts usability:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/182#note_3837...

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Post by Apofis »

A lot of great usability improvements from MacOS! Great news. Looks like the Ubuntu Unity separation will be less painful... Gnome isn't that great to use without a lot of customization.

System76 is more than just a laptop, PopOS! is great. It's also nice to have CoreBoot and a discreet Nvidia RTX GPU. With PopOS they have figured-out scaling with various monitors... I have an external ultrawide that's not even 2k and it works great with the laptop's built-in 4k with proper scaling on both (not easy to do)... a regular 1080p external also works great.

Finally, I think I configured the most expensive workstation in my life with these guys, north of $80k.

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Post by ufo »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #53
snicker7 wrote: post #49

"Keyboard" or "Mouse" driven? What about trackpad? I would love some gestures to quickly switch windows and workspaces.

Gnome 3 has gesture support. I don't think many are built in, certainly not as many as mac OS gives you out of the box. But you can go wild: https://github.com/mpiannucci/gnome-shell-extended-gestures

GNOME 40 (just released) is also adding a some new three-finger gestures for workspace switching.

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Post by folkrav »

rpdillon wrote: post #237
BigJ1211 wrote: post #161

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It's really noticable when reading/writing text. I personally do dev work for a living and when I have to use a FHD screen instead of a UHD screen it's really noticable. It's kind of like going from 144Hz back to 60Hz when playing FPS games.

Based on lots of previous comments (and yours!) that describe a day/night difference, I've concluded this is highly personal. Work issued me a 2018 Mac with a 2880x1800 15.4" display (220 dpi), and I work at home with it plugged into a 1920x1080 23.5" display (93 dpi) from Sceptre. They are side by side, all day long, and I vastly prefer writing and coding on the FHD display, to the point that I thought I was being t…

Yeah, it must be. I much prefer using monitors at stock resolution, without scaling, for that sweet real-estate, rather than having pretty displays where I can't see pixels just so it's pretty. I had a retina MacBook for a while, it was very nice, but especially for dev work... I couldn't bring myself to care enough that I'd want a 4k screen (that I'd have to run at an effective 1080p anyway) vs just a 1440p monitor of the same size I can use without scaling.
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