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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by toolz »

emilsedgh wrote: post #163
toolz wrote: post #155

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I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH... I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.

What exact model did you get if you don't mind me asking?

huh, apparently price went up $150 since I bought it https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-grap...

edit: wow price went way up actually - I paid $790 https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by pkulak »

varispeed wrote: post #34

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

They need to make their own laptop. Then it's an instant buy from me. But right now everything is 1080p, plastic, with no USB-C charging. Bleh.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by pkulak »

867-5309 wrote: post #70
varispeed wrote: post #34

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

4K on a 14".. what is the use case for that? unless you have some hybrid long-short sightedness (d)efficiency, use your laptop as a chesttop, or want quadruple the pixels for half the battery life I really can't see any benefit

4K at 14" is probably not a great idea because you'd need fractional scaling.

I'm holding out for 13" 1440p, which is a perfect 2x.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by pkulak »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #77
valvar wrote: post #71

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What's your logic there? I would have thought that if your eyesight is poor, resolution matters much less as you can't tell the difference. You'd want to scale things 2-4 times anyway.

2x scaling at 4k is comfortable and crisply rendered fonts are a MUST. My eyes are far more fatigued at the end of the day if font rendering isn't crystal clear. Other resolutions require non-integer scaling and my experience with that has been... not great.

You can do 2x scaling on a 14" laptop at 4k? That's way too small for me.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by dsego »

skrtskrt wrote: post #159
fnl wrote: post #93

I've recently switched from my usual MBP upgrade to System 76 (Oryx Pro). While yes, Apple's walled garden does feel like a Rolls Royce compared to anything, the price tag difference this time was just way too step for me to keep buying a new Mac: It was basically 2x or more for roughly similar hardware, if not slightly worse on the MBP side. Overall, using Pop_OS! with its specialized GNOME3 setup has been a bliss,…

iTerm2 is a beauty, is there a closest equivalent on Linux? There seem to be 25 popular choices especially now with the GPU-accelerated ones. Tried a few of the classics like Termite and they all seemed painfully outdated and crappy compared to iTerm.

There is tilix, not sure how close it comes though. https://gnunn1.github.io/tilix-web/

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by cooperadymas »

varispeed wrote: post #34

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

Everybody wants what they want and that's fine, but this comment shows why it's so hard for a small manufacturer to cater to developers.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by skrtskrt »

joelthelion wrote: post #169
skrtskrt wrote: post #159

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iTerm2 is a beauty, is there a closest equivalent on Linux? There seem to be 25 popular choices especially now with the GPU-accelerated ones. Tried a few of the classics like Termite and they all seemed painfully outdated and crappy compared to iTerm.

Gnome terminal is really good.

On Pop OS I just stuck with gnome-terminal, it was plenty good if not quite as slick as iterm2.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by dguaraglia »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #108
dguaraglia wrote: post #103

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Maybe join us Plasma users in the dark side. Honestly, it's pretty sweet and you can configure it to look and behave just the way you want it.

Yeah, I’m really glad the KDE world seems to have recovered from the KDE4 disaster. However, the Linux desktop ecosystem largely feels like it’s just sort of rotting: I really like KMail, for example, but it had a bunch of show-stopper bugs last time I used it.

Yeah... the desktop environment itself is pretty nice, but a lot of the apps built around it are either abandonware or just plain low quality. At least nowadays GTK applications don't look completely out of place so even using all kinds of disparate programs (Thunderbird, Goland, Slack, Chrome, etc.) results in a pleasantly consistent experience.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by dsego »

Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL wrote: post #137
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #15

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

As someone who has used too many distributions and window managers to count (over the course of many years), I've settled on Ubuntu and whatever their default UI. And I quite liked Unity as well after a while. Of course if there was a major reason to switch away from Ubuntu or their default DE, I would, but it's the pragmatic choice. The constant "finding" of the perfect fit gets in the way of actually doing stuff. O…

> Though for me, as long as Canonical doesn't screw it up in a major way, stock Ubuntu it is.

It's not like they're not trying, with snaps and all... we shall see.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL »

dsego wrote: post #179
Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who has used too many distributions and window managers to count (over the course of many years), I've settled on Ubuntu and whatever their default UI. And I quite liked Unity as well after a while. Of course if there was a major reason to switch away from Ubuntu or their default DE, I would, but it's the pragmatic choice. The constant "finding" of the perfect fit gets in the way of actually doing stuff. O…

> Though for me, as long as Canonical doesn't screw it up in a major way, stock Ubuntu it is. It's not like they're not trying, with snaps and all... we shall see.

I guess what constitutes a "major screw up" can be debated. I don't have a problem with snaps.
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