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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by zoward »

foxhop wrote: post #14
tekromancr wrote: post #4

Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

I love USBC power. Is there a good reason?

A lot of Lenovo laptops have one USB-C port which doubles as the power cable. I'm typing on a Thinkpad right now with that very configuration. My daughter's Chrmoebook is the same way. She bent the USB-C port on it and now it won't charge. I'm being really, really careful with my Thinkpad.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by s3tz »

toomanyducks wrote: post #92
silisili wrote: post #59

Nice to see! And glad they are...gasp...listening to people. The Gnome devs could learn a lot from that approach. The most popular distros all include a dock. And yet with Gnome 40, they not only refused to add a dock, they moved what gimped dock they had to the bottom of the screen. But you can't see it until you hit the top left corner. I wish I was making that up. (keyboard shortcuts aside, in fairness) Rant aside…

To be pedantic, you can see the dash/dock when you hit the super key, I don't believe anyone actually uses the hot corner. Also to be pedantic, there are plenty of desktops that don't use a dock, in the form of most window managers. I'm currently running opnebox with no dock and it's totally fine, though the approach is better suited to tiling window managers.

It's a completely unnecessary extra action the completely breaks your flow.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by dguaraglia »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #15

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

Maybe join us Plasma users in the dark side. Honestly, it's pretty sweet and you can configure it to look and behave just the way you want it.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by jrm4 »

llcoolv wrote: post #20

I think that those "Let's make our own DE" dumb kids are both a symptom and a cause why Linux never broke on the mainstream workstation market. Truth is that a shite miserable 25 year old xfce could be customised in a way good enough to compete with OS X. Why waste all the time on such a massive amount of extremely useless work? Just because it is fun? And yeah, you can downvote this into oblivion, I don't care. The…

Colorful language aside, you're right.

Unity was perhaps the biggest blunder in all of Linux-dom in terms of getting this OS out there; Ubuntu was sitting on the perfect opportunity to pull the rug from under Microsoft at XPs end of life -- could have just done "Hey, you want a simple, ultra-stable, ultra-familiar experience now that XP is gone?" And keep something Gnome2-ish and be the Volvo of computers.

And instead went with "Let's see if we can out-sexy Apple!" No. You can't. Ugh.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #15

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

I had abandoned all the desktop environments for xmonad and then stumpwm. However, I’ve recently given KDE Plasma a chance, and it’s really grown on me: especially for my current setup (55” TV), it’s much more ergonomic than tiling WMs and it doesn’t have the annoyances I had with KDE4, Gnome 3 or Unity.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by turbinerneiter »

sk1pper wrote: post #88
turbinerneiter wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are basically teabagging. There is a lot of awesome people in the Free Desktop community, who work hard for what they believe in. Criticism is always welcome, there is a lot of work to do and a lot of stuff to improve. But having people who use a different OS come in and ridicule all of that work is not really nice. I've been happily using the treaded GNOME without filepicker thumbnails for 10 years now and I'm n…

Not parent commenter but I've had the same experience - and I'm sure this comment will be received just as poorly as theirs, but I've given up on Linux desktop. It just isn't stable. I've tried so many times and I don't know what 1) is wrong with me or 2) the "I'm just as productive on Linux" people are smoking. Just getting basic stuff to work like bluetooth is a hassle. Headphones stuck in headset mode, let's go dr…

That's ok. My experience is much better and I don't know why there is a difference either.

I just don't get why people love to dunk so hard on something they don't use and do it in such a disrespectful way. What you said is totally fine, altough I could argue that you thinking I smoke is an insult, I mean it was one time, come on, I didn't even inhale.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by whycombagator »

pram wrote: post #97
arnaudsm wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the latest AMD 5850U chip is 40% faster [1] than the M1 for the same wattage! It really deserves more media exposure than the M1 which has the only merit of beating Intel. [1] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+PRO+585...

The M1 is the entry level processor, and is still beating everything in single thread performance. What merits the media exposure?

Non-Apple TSMC 7nm and 40% faster at the same wattage (assuming GP is correct) compared to M1 seem like valid reasons for media exposure to me

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

dguaraglia wrote: post #103
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #15

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

Maybe join us Plasma users in the dark side. Honestly, it's pretty sweet and you can configure it to look and behave just the way you want it.

Yeah, I’m really glad the KDE world seems to have recovered from the KDE4 disaster. However, the Linux desktop ecosystem largely feels like it’s just sort of rotting: I really like KMail, for example, but it had a bunch of show-stopper bugs last time I used it.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by pmontra »

silon42 wrote: post #17
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #15

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

A someone that prefers Gnome2 and KDE... Gnome3 and Unity are both ewwww...

I'm using a dozen extensions to make Gnome 3 behave like Gnome 2 as much as I can. No animations, no menu on top, no top bar, task bar at the bottom, no dock, no activities, one virtual desktop per project. That was impossible with Unity.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by gtf21 »

acdha wrote: post #83
867-5309 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4K on a 14".. what is the use case for that? unless you have some hybrid long-short sightedness (d)efficiency, use your laptop as a chesttop, or want quadruple the pixels for half the battery life I really can't see any benefit

Use a Mac with a Retina display for a week and see whether you don't notice a difference — and it's certainly nowhere near half the battery life. Everyone I know who's done this has never wanted to go back.

As someone who went from a mac (for the last 15 years including several retina MBPs) to a 1920x1080 13" screen on a lemur pro, I really don't find that it makes a huge difference to me. I thought it would really irritate me but it doesn't.
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