Has Apple finally arrived in 1984? • Hacker News Board

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

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Post by cph1 » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 10:45 AM UTC

tobylane wrote: post #10

cph1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- "Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers" How do you know? I think this is an appropriate time to mention what Zuckerberg once said about Facebook users: "They trust me - dumb fucks." - "Apple will always care" Apple uses conflict minerals and has its devices made on slave-like factories. You really think they care about anything other than creating value for its stockholders? I use Apple p…

If you research their ad system, there's a lot of easily findable stuff about how your friends names get involved, and how you're matched to the ads, not the other way around.

I know their ad system - I've used it myself. My point is that they may do other kinds of things without you knowing.

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

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Post by tobylane » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 4:34 PM UTC

cph1 wrote: post #11

tobylane wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you research their ad system, there's a lot of easily findable stuff about how your friends names get involved, and how you're matched to the ads, not the other way around.

I know their ad system - I've used it myself. My point is that they may do other kinds of things without you knowing.

That's getting close to paranoia. EU law is enough to keep you safe, and Facebook follows such law, here's what they have to say https://www.facebook.com/policy.php

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

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Post by cph1 » Wed, Jun 08, 2011, 7:09 PM UTC

tobylane wrote: post #12

cph1 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know their ad system - I've used it myself. My point is that they may do other kinds of things without you knowing.

That's getting close to paranoia. EU law is enough to keep you safe, and Facebook follows such law, here's what they have to say https://www.facebook.com/policy.php

> That's getting close to paranoia.

Selling users' personal data to data mining and advertising companies is very common. It's not really paranoid to think that Facebook would do such a thing, considering that they call their users trusting dumb fucks and blatantly disregard their users' request for decent privacy.

> EU law is enough to keep you safe

Most of the times when an American Internet company have been challenged by EU law, the response from the company has been, "We're an American company, and our users uploaded their data to our servers which are placed in America." Then there's not much EU can do.

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

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Post by huxley » Tue, Jun 21, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

cph1 wrote: post #9

tobylane wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Eric and Mark aren't the people I want having much data, but then at least Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers, it just looks like it. Apple will always care, it doesn't matter who's CEO.

- "Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers" How do you know? I think this is an appropriate time to mention what Zuckerberg once said about Facebook users: "They trust me - dumb fucks." - "Apple will always care" Apple uses conflict minerals and has its devices made on slave-like factories. You really think they care about anything other than creating value for its stockholders? I use Apple p…

Apple started earlier this year to map its entire supply chain in an effort to eliminate use of "conflict minerals".

http://www.enoughproject.org/blogs/apple-making-headway-mapp...

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

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Post by huxley » Tue, Jun 21, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

cph1 wrote: post #9

tobylane wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Eric and Mark aren't the people I want having much data, but then at least Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers, it just looks like it. Apple will always care, it doesn't matter who's CEO.

- "Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers" How do you know? I think this is an appropriate time to mention what Zuckerberg once said about Facebook users: "They trust me - dumb fucks." - "Apple will always care" Apple uses conflict minerals and has its devices made on slave-like factories. You really think they care about anything other than creating value for its stockholders? I use Apple p…

Apple started earlier this year to map its entire supply chain in an effort to eliminate use of "conflict minerals".

http://www.enoughproject.org/blogs/apple-making-headway-mapp...

Re: Has Apple finally arrived in 1984?

#16

Post by huxley » Tue, Jun 21, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

cph1 wrote: post #9

tobylane wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Eric and Mark aren't the people I want having much data, but then at least Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers, it just looks like it. Apple will always care, it doesn't matter who's CEO.

- "Facebook doesn't really give your information to the advertisers" How do you know? I think this is an appropriate time to mention what Zuckerberg once said about Facebook users: "They trust me - dumb fucks." - "Apple will always care" Apple uses conflict minerals and has its devices made on slave-like factories. You really think they care about anything other than creating value for its stockholders? I use Apple p…

Apple started earlier this year to map its entire supply chain in an effort to eliminate use of "conflict minerals".

http://www.enoughproject.org/blogs/apple-making-headway-mapp...