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System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#42

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

I wouldn't even care if that laptop were an inch thick

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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post #39

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

Drop the 4K IPS for a 2560x1440 panel instead.

I wouldn't say no to that if other specs matched.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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post #25

Why another WM to further divide up dev time for desktop environments. I'm not say people shouldn't make what they want, but I think they'd meet their goals a lot easier contributing to an existing project instead of forking.

That's the Linux desktop ecosystem. Another window manager that some users will use and will later complain that their browser isn't working with it or it crashes with etc Wayland, X11, Yet another Linux app or even Z shell, etc. Sometimes it's only 'fun' swapping in alternatives of alternative system components, until you actually need to get work done. Then it must not get in the way of the user. I prefer the deskt…

You are basically teabagging.

There is a lot of awesome people in the Free Desktop community, who work hard for what they believe in. Criticism is always welcome, there is a lot of work to do and a lot of stuff to improve.

But having people who use a different OS come in and ridicule all of that work is not really nice.

I've been happily using the treaded GNOME without filepicker thumbnails for 10 years now and I'm neither less productive not less happy than you.

Enjoy your Mac! OSX has a lot of great inspirations for the Free Desktop.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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post #36

I've been hearing a surprising amount of positive feedback from people who have tried the current Gnome based DE on Pop OS. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard that they have some sort of tiling / snapping that works well. I'd like to try it, but I'm heavily invested in upstream Debian and am not really interested in installing another Debian derivative. Are there plans to package this up? I'm currently using X…

It's just a set of about 3 gnome extensions, at least on Pop OS 20.10 right now. So in theory you just need to install the gnome extensions and you're good: https://github.com/pop-os/shell

I've been using it for a year and love it--typing this reply in a browser window tiled next to a terminal. It's easy to add little exceptions too for modal apps you want to hover outside the tiling.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#46
post #36

I've been hearing a surprising amount of positive feedback from people who have tried the current Gnome based DE on Pop OS. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard that they have some sort of tiling / snapping that works well. I'd like to try it, but I'm heavily invested in upstream Debian and am not really interested in installing another Debian derivative. Are there plans to package this up? I'm currently using X…

I'm using it on a Surface Pro 3 that runs Pop OS and have nothing but positives to report.

Additionally, it's by far the best tablet experience I've had not just on Linux, but period.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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post #25

Why another WM to further divide up dev time for desktop environments. I'm not say people shouldn't make what they want, but I think they'd meet their goals a lot easier contributing to an existing project instead of forking.

That's the Linux desktop ecosystem. Another window manager that some users will use and will later complain that their browser isn't working with it or it crashes with etc Wayland, X11, Yet another Linux app or even Z shell, etc. Sometimes it's only 'fun' swapping in alternatives of alternative system components, until you actually need to get work done. Then it must not get in the way of the user. I prefer the deskt…

Not in Big Sur it doesn’t. They dramatically changed the appearance for the worse. Tons more wasted space. They broke long-standing keyboard shortcuts.

The move to iOS-ify MacOS with Catalyst just doesn’t work. Messages on Big Sur is effectively non-functional. I have a chat with a friend that breaks the message entry box reliably. If he sends me a message I have to create a new message to him to get the input box. It’s janky crap.

Personally I’m excited by a hardware company selling a fully integrated Linux machine and taking an interest in making a working OS. This could finally get me free of Apple’s misguided antics.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing I liked about unity was the HUD that allowed you to search through application menus by typing the setting you were looking for. Do you know if there’s anything offering that functionality for Gnome3?

If you hit the Windows key on Gnome 3, you can type the name of a program, file or system setting and it will generally find it.

That's not it. Unity let you find at you typed to get to menu options. So you did not have to care whether the item you wanted was under File, Edit, or whatever, you could just start typing "preferences" and it would let you find it and go to it with the keyboard.

That was pretty good, actually.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#50

What's their strategy here? Do they hope that their window manager will drive hardware sales?

I've been using Pop OS for a bit over a year now and it's perfect. I could totally see whole teams of developers being sold on switching to Linux as primary dev environments. There's zero futzing around with configs and such to get things just right--it's great right out of the box. I haven't had that kind of experience since MacOS X but this is even better since it's just real Linux and stuff like docker containers, etc. run natively without VM overhead.
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