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System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by iudqnolq »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #18
tekromancr wrote: post #4

Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

I'll admit, I haven't tried on my laptop, but doesn't the Darter Pro support USB C charging? Direct from their website Charger 65 Watts, AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC-out 19V, 3.42A, USB Type-C Charging Compatible

I have one, and it doesn't seem to work. I haven't filed a ticket though, as I don't really care. I just tried a usb-c pd compatible cable, although I'm not certain the brick that connects the cable to the wall is pd compatible. Usb c, eurgh, why do I have to think about this sort of thing.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by ekiwi »

thepangolino wrote: post #26
CoolGuySteve wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best thing about Unity is that now it will never change for better or worse and still works with Ubuntu 20.04. It's fairly minimalist and frozen in stasis like I wish Apple had done with the SnowLeopard UI.

The only thing I liked about unity was the HUD that allowed you to search through application menus by typing the setting you were looking for. Do you know if there’s anything offering that functionality for Gnome3?

If you hit the Windows key on Gnome 3, you can type the name of a program, file or system setting and it will generally find it.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by marcodiego »

llcoolv wrote: post #20

I think that those "Let's make our own DE" dumb kids are both a symptom and a cause why Linux never broke on the mainstream workstation market. Truth is that a shite miserable 25 year old xfce could be customised in a way good enough to compete with OS X. Why waste all the time on such a massive amount of extremely useless work? Just because it is fun? And yeah, you can downvote this into oblivion, I don't care. The…

>Truth is that a shite miserable 25 year old xfce could be customised in a way good enough to compete with OS X

In terms of appearance, maybe. Make that work consistently with most used programs with the same shortcuts, composition, behavior and rich integration between all these apps and then we're talking.

Getting everything working reliably, beautifully, integrated and fast demands many people thinking, designing, implementing, testing and fixing. It is very expensive and only affordable for companies that can make enough money with to return the investment. Linux has no presence on the desktop because vendors that make the most money with it have 0 presence on the desktop.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by varispeed »

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching their talk with Louis Rossman I really like this company. Hopefully one day they'll have a product that will match my needs. The link to the talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGle6z9KfZQ

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by polyamid23 »

spicybright wrote: post #2

Why another WM to further divide up dev time for desktop environments. I'm not say people shouldn't make what they want, but I think they'd meet their goals a lot easier contributing to an existing project instead of forking.

It's a gnome extension.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by ohazi »

I've been hearing a surprising amount of positive feedback from people who have tried the current Gnome based DE on Pop OS. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard that they have some sort of tiling / snapping that works well. I'd like to try it, but I'm heavily invested in upstream Debian and am not really interested in installing another Debian derivative. Are there plans to package this up?

I'm currently using XFCE on two computers with key bindings for snap left/right and snap top-left/top-right/bottom-left/bottom-right. On a big display, this setup is excellent. On a laptop it works, but often feels a little cramped, and it's particularly painful with a laptop trackpad instead of a mouse. It would be nice if there was an option to split ~67%/33%... apparently Windows(!) can do that.

I've also been playing with i3 on another laptop, and for a lot of things the experience is clearly better (e.g. web browsing on a laptop without a mouse), but for others (e.g. kicad) it either doesn't work well, or I haven't managed to configure it well enough yet. The rabbit hole is infinitely deep, and while I enjoy tinkering with it every now and then, I'm probably not going to use it as a daily driver anytime soon.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by kaibee »

varispeed wrote: post #34

I wish they had a laptop with a latest and top AMD, 14" 4K IPS matte panel, programmers friendly keyboard (pg up/down home end on dedicated keys at least), expandable RAM and nvme drive, silent fans and metal chassis and a Linux support. Less important physical camera and wi-fi cut off switch. If there was an ARM chip with comparable performance to M1 I would consider it too if it was running Linux. After watching th…

Drop the 4K IPS for a 2560x1440 panel instead.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Post by tekromancr »

tekromancr wrote: post #4

Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

I seem to be mistaken! Sounds like quite a few models DO have PD now. I guess I am just grumpy my Oryx pro 6 doesn't.
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