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System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#21

What's their strategy here? Do they hope that their window manager will drive hardware sales?

Well, their additions to Gnome in PopOS have been very well received. So..maybe. The "power user" space (especially the non-cli oriented one) is really lacking out-of-the-box solutions rn.

It wouldn't be the first time tailored software drove hardware sales.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#22

What's their strategy here? Do they hope that their window manager will drive hardware sales?

Yes? The lack of a workable window manager is one of the biggest things that prevents me from using a Linux laptop as a daily driver.

It makes sense that System76 would work toward a serviceable Linux desktop OS. For the same reason it makes sense that Apple develops MacOS but charges no license fees.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

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Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

I love USBC power. Is there a good reason?

There of course is - you don't write a perfectly useless kernel patch - you ain't coolandfun andthatsit.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#25

Why another WM to further divide up dev time for desktop environments. I'm not say people shouldn't make what they want, but I think they'd meet their goals a lot easier contributing to an existing project instead of forking.

That's the Linux desktop ecosystem. Another window manager that some users will use and will later complain that their browser isn't working with it or it crashes with etc Wayland, X11, Yet another Linux app or even Z shell, etc.

Sometimes it's only 'fun' swapping in alternatives of alternative system components, until you actually need to get work done. Then it must not get in the way of the user.

I prefer the desktop environment of 'It just works' and 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'. It's called macOS.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#26

When Ubuntu dropped the hammer on Gnome2, I saw Unity desktop and was kinda... ewwww. And next I have installed Gnome 3. After 15 minutes with it I decided that Unity is actually not that bad , so I switched to it. In the following years Unity kinda grew on me, so I'm sad that it was axed and now everyone use this Gnome3 abomination. It is not as bad as it was five years before, but loss of top menu and general prefe…

The best thing about Unity is that now it will never change for better or worse and still works with Ubuntu 20.04. It's fairly minimalist and frozen in stasis like I wish Apple had done with the SnowLeopard UI.

The only thing I liked about unity was the HUD that allowed you to search through application menus by typing the setting you were looking for. Do you know if there’s anything offering that functionality for Gnome3?

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#27

Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

I’m fine with it. One of my usbc ports is already shot by a 3 year old. While the heavy duty power cord is still going strong 4 years later. BUT my computer can pull down some serious amps when I play FS2020 at a whopping 20FPS in ultra... so there’s that.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#28

Things System 76 does: maintain their own os distro, desktop environment, coreboot fork, system firmware Things System 76 refuses to do: usbc PD I say this as a very happy S76 customer

Last Galago I purchased came with a power brick but also supported usb-c power delivery.

Re: System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment

#30
post #22

What's their strategy here? Do they hope that their window manager will drive hardware sales?

Yes? The lack of a workable window manager is one of the biggest things that prevents me from using a Linux laptop as a daily driver. It makes sense that System76 would work toward a serviceable Linux desktop OS. For the same reason it makes sense that Apple develops MacOS but charges no license fees.

Cinnamon is brilliant, it’s been my main choice since I moved from XFCE, it’s a modern version of the classic desktop.

For me it’s more serviceable than anything else but as always ymmv but as a developer desktop that I do all my computing on Fedora Cinnamon is damn close to perfect, there is little I can think of to improve it.

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