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I use a password manager but, as a mostly-Apple user, I see very little reason not to just use iCloud Keychain: the UX of Apple’s solution is significantly better than all the alternatives because I don’t have to remember yet another password/mfa token to type in every once in a while.
BitWarden ties into iCloud somehow. I unlock it with my fingerprint.
1Password Secrets Automation
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Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
To respond to some of the sibling comments: 1Password originally operated on a licensing model, but has since switched to a membership model. It is still possible to purchase a single license, but they make it very difficult to do so. The option of a standalone license is not mentioned anywhere on their pricing page: https://1password.com/sign-up/ As I understand it, only once you have downloaded the app and are logg…
Thank you for your comment, @CodeIsTheEnd! We always built 1Password for ourselves. It is so much easier to develop a product that you use yourself every day. I haven't used the standalone version of 1Password for over 5 years now. The same is true for pretty much everyone working at 1Password. Why? Because the service is much much better and more than just simple syncing of data: - Account recovery for family and bu…
I'm not overjoyed at "having to" pay a subscription for a password manager, but your points are good ones.
Paying you annually saves me and my family (four people) a lot of time and energy in managing passwords, sharing passwords, etc.
Just wanted to throw out one "+1" for the 1Password subscription offering being a worthwhile expense from my perspective.
I do wish you'd figure out the Chrome extensions on macOS, though. I don't understand why I have to choose between excellent browser integration OR more seamless integration with the native app and fingerprint support in the browser extension.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#73Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
What gimmicks, tricks, and dark patterns are you referring to? I've been using 1Password for my personal accounts for probably close to 10 years and have been happy with it. There are some things I feel are clunky, but I've never felt like I was being tricked or deceived by the company.
"It used to be free but now you have to pay" is really the only dark pattern they are guilty of.
You can still get stand-alone licenses, but they do suppress that. Part of that I believe is not running afoul of App Store rules, and also because most people are finding it via the iOS and Mac app stores.
I'm still using standalone licenses quite happily, and have no issue with buying new licenses when major versions get bumped.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#75This looks interesting. We use 1Password, and I always thought it would be useful to programmatically pull values out and use in our cloud infrastructure. Currently we end up using the secret managers available in AWS or GCP, which seems pretty half baked. In GCP, for example, secrets are stored at a project level. It's not unusual to have certain secrets that are needed by more than one project, which means they get…
What do you mean by this? Each secret has a "Permissions" tab which allows you to grant access to individual IAM users.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#76Strange to see this. The product is a mess on MacOs right now. Support can’t decide which extension to recommend. Their messaging has been inconsistent, saying the browser will integrate with the native client. But then also that the browser only version is the future of the product. This says nothing of the performance and UI problems the product has faced. Recently it was so bad the company was telling people to us…
If I were unfamiliar with 1Password, I'd imagine the product is an absolute dumpster fire from your post. In reality, the macOS and iOS clients work fine. I have a dozen friends and family members using the product with no complains on those platforms. I surely haven't seen any performance or UI problems that aren't worse on different services. Sure, there is some current confusion between the use of the 1Password X…
The MacOS native / extension interaction and choice is a mess.
From a UX perspective, the single most important thing the product can do is interact with the browser effectively. Embedded in this "feature" is that the product is stable, and responsive in behavior.
If you go to the chrome web store, 1password extension page and sort by recently updated, you'll see review after review of 1-3 star, carefully explained problems with this product.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/1password-%E2%80%9...
Regarding inconsistent messaging, their support is promising they're working on native app integration but there is no timeline for this.
That's why this news is kind of a bummer. The product that I'm subscribed to is competing with this new product for resources.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I specifically want my non-technical family and friends to use password managers I consider it a victory if I can get non-techies to use their browser's facilities to store passwords, and then to choose reasonably long passwords and avoid reuse. (I use `pass`, myself.)
I use a password manager but, as a mostly-Apple user, I see very little reason not to just use iCloud Keychain: the UX of Apple’s solution is significantly better than all the alternatives because I don’t have to remember yet another password/mfa token to type in every once in a while.
The value prop if you're 100% on-Apple, and OK with this fact, is hard to challenge. If you have some non-apple devices that need passwords, that's where having a third-party password service makes sense.
FWIW, I use `pass`, as a mostly-Apple person who also owns a few linux devices and occasionally requires passwords while `ssh`'d into servers.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#78This looks interesting. We use 1Password, and I always thought it would be useful to programmatically pull values out and use in our cloud infrastructure. Currently we end up using the secret managers available in AWS or GCP, which seems pretty half baked. In GCP, for example, secrets are stored at a project level. It's not unusual to have certain secrets that are needed by more than one project, which means they get…
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
To respond to some of the sibling comments: 1Password originally operated on a licensing model, but has since switched to a membership model. It is still possible to purchase a single license, but they make it very difficult to do so. The option of a standalone license is not mentioned anywhere on their pricing page: https://1password.com/sign-up/ As I understand it, only once you have downloaded the app and are logg…
Thank you for your comment, @CodeIsTheEnd! We always built 1Password for ourselves. It is so much easier to develop a product that you use yourself every day. I haven't used the standalone version of 1Password for over 5 years now. The same is true for pretty much everyone working at 1Password. Why? Because the service is much much better and more than just simple syncing of data: - Account recovery for family and bu…
I pay yearly for a subscription and sync via 1Password.com
I don’t pay a subscription because I think that it’s important or necessary to sync via 1Password.com, though. I’d happily sync via Dropbox (though it sounds like that has been broken for years and isn’t getting fixed) or iCloud.
I pay because I know it costs money to keep software working nicely with its surrounding environment and to keep it secure.
Apart from the item history - which I disagree needs a server - the other feature you list aren’t of interest to me. So while I’m a big fan of the product, and I might be an outlier, I hope you’re keeping a keen eye on your users’ motivations for starting or continuing to pay for subscriptions.
Re: 1Password Secrets Automation
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I specifically want my non-technical family and friends to use password managers I consider it a victory if I can get non-techies to use their browser's facilities to store passwords, and then to choose reasonably long passwords and avoid reuse. (I use `pass`, myself.)
I use a password manager but, as a mostly-Apple user, I see very little reason not to just use iCloud Keychain: the UX of Apple’s solution is significantly better than all the alternatives because I don’t have to remember yet another password/mfa token to type in every once in a while.