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Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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Sorry for the pedestrian comment, but,

watching the cyberwars happening is surreal. Nuclear material production being attacked by Stuxnet, this current event, others I'm sure, is amazing.

The cyberwars of disinformation as well - completely surreal to see this all play out. Sorry I don't have more to add. It's hard to describe how it feels to see the future arrive like this. Pandemic. Rocket milestones, Mars plans. Nuclear-targeted cyberwar. Cryptocurrency. And flying cars are seemingly coming before self-driving cars perhaps. (Edit: And all backed by an increasingly divided America.)

What a weird twist into the future the last few years have been.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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post #3

Sorry for the pedestrian comment, but, watching the cyberwars happening is surreal. Nuclear material production being attacked by Stuxnet, this current event, others I'm sure, is amazing. The cyberwars of disinformation as well - completely surreal to see this all play out. Sorry I don't have more to add. It's hard to describe how it feels to see the future arrive like this. Pandemic. Rocket milestones, Mars plans. N…

Information Technologies have been weaponized, but not hardened, if that makes any sense. A lot of soft targets and heavy ordinance, not so many fortresses.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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This makes you wonder if we might see a resurgence in old school control systems without processors, and def no networks.

The Manhattan project was able uranium purified to get a bomb working without PLCs and networks.

All else being equal it's more expensive, but not compared to being unable to keep your network safe from attack. You need to reconfigure the line? Send eight techs down one by one to set new parameters and octople check the first tech's work.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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post #3

Sorry for the pedestrian comment, but, watching the cyberwars happening is surreal. Nuclear material production being attacked by Stuxnet, this current event, others I'm sure, is amazing. The cyberwars of disinformation as well - completely surreal to see this all play out. Sorry I don't have more to add. It's hard to describe how it feels to see the future arrive like this. Pandemic. Rocket milestones, Mars plans. N…

Too much of a dystopia for my taste. I wish that we had solved climate change, stopped a few useless wars, and fixed a big part of the cronic health problems. We are much better than a hundred years ago, but we have much more to improve.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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post #4
post #3

Sorry for the pedestrian comment, but, watching the cyberwars happening is surreal. Nuclear material production being attacked by Stuxnet, this current event, others I'm sure, is amazing. The cyberwars of disinformation as well - completely surreal to see this all play out. Sorry I don't have more to add. It's hard to describe how it feels to see the future arrive like this. Pandemic. Rocket milestones, Mars plans. N…

Information Technologies have been weaponized, but not hardened, if that makes any sense. A lot of soft targets and heavy ordinance, not so many fortresses.

Yeah, it feels like the "golden age" in some way - there's lots of developments available on both sides.

I expect things will "calm down" over the next fifty years as defense-in-depth and security become ingrained into how we work. Compare a "modern network" with the first ARPANET.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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post #6

This makes you wonder if we might see a resurgence in old school control systems without processors, and def no networks. The Manhattan project was able uranium purified to get a bomb working without PLCs and networks. All else being equal it's more expensive, but not compared to being unable to keep your network safe from attack. You need to reconfigure the line? Send eight techs down one by one to set new parameter…

Analog is the future. Steampunk nuke ops.

Re: Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by cutting power

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post #6

This makes you wonder if we might see a resurgence in old school control systems without processors, and def no networks. The Manhattan project was able uranium purified to get a bomb working without PLCs and networks. All else being equal it's more expensive, but not compared to being unable to keep your network safe from attack. You need to reconfigure the line? Send eight techs down one by one to set new parameter…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPKGbg16ulU
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