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What the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t (2010)

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Re: What the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t (2010)

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Posted so many times:

- 3 months ago 68 comments [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25551624]

- Jan 2020 [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21984435]

- May 2018 [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17069386]

- Aug 2015, 25 comments [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10145480]

- Jul 2010, 23 comments [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1498136]

- Jul 2010 [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1494732]

- Often referenced in other high-repost DK posts like "Dunning-Kruger and other memes" and "Wikipedia: Dunning–Kruger Effect"

Re: What the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t (2010)

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Doesn't seem to be any discussion of Nuhfer's findings, which showed that you could recreate the effect with just random data. The bias comes from the process of manipulating normalized data: https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol10/iss1/art4/

That implies that Dunning and Kruger percieved their work as better than it was.

Re: What the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t (2010)

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post #7

Doesn't seem to be any discussion of Nuhfer's findings, which showed that you could recreate the effect with just random data. The bias comes from the process of manipulating normalized data: https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol10/iss1/art4/

That implies that Dunning and Kruger percieved their work as better than it was.

...due directly to a lack of understanding of statistics. But that just proves it. It's a Catch-22 !?

Re: What the Dunning-Kruger effect is and isn’t (2010)

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Does the Dunning-Kruger effect apply to people's knowledge of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

Maybe psychology in general.

But yeah, since it's a broadly applicable principle, it should apply to itself. In that people who don't understand the Dunning-Kruger principle believe they understand it better than they do.

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