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Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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Canadian here on the ground in Ukraine, on the Eastern side (Kharkiv). The situation is pretty serious as everyone’s talking about war, and I personally am stocking up on non-perishable food items. The prevailing opinion seems to be that Russia is just flexing muscles, but I personally believe a full scale invasion is in the works. The idea that Putin is trying to extract concessions doesn’t make sense to me, because…

"on the ground" as in military service or are you living/visiting?

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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I can't understand how some smart people still sympathize Russia and say it acts only for defense. Russia has made the first annexation in Europe since WW2 and effectively control another part of Ukraine.

Right now it looks like Russian logic is that every free person in the world is a potential threat to Russia. Because threat is anything that you don't control.

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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I can't understand how some smart people still sympathize Russia and say it acts only for defense. Russia has made the first annexation in Europe since WW2 and effectively control another part of Ukraine. Right now it looks like Russian logic is that every free person in the world is a potential threat to Russia. Because threat is anything that you don't control.

Did the people of Crimea want to be in Russia or the Ukraine?

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any difference?

Propaganda presumes lies. Official position is just that: official position. Kremlin believes that Ukraine is preparing to war. There are reports about Ukraine forces gathering up, so those beliefs probably are justified.

Is there any presumption that Russia politicians are not lying? They are the spokesperson of propaganda.

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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I can't understand how some smart people still sympathize Russia and say it acts only for defense. Russia has made the first annexation in Europe since WW2 and effectively control another part of Ukraine. Right now it looks like Russian logic is that every free person in the world is a potential threat to Russia. Because threat is anything that you don't control.

Did the people of Crimea want to be in Russia or the Ukraine?

We don't know. They didn't have a free and fair plebiscite.

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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I can't understand how some smart people still sympathize Russia and say it acts only for defense. Russia has made the first annexation in Europe since WW2 and effectively control another part of Ukraine. Right now it looks like Russian logic is that every free person in the world is a potential threat to Russia. Because threat is anything that you don't control.

Did the people of Crimea want to be in Russia or the Ukraine?

What's the answer to this question?

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

#29
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not their territory though, not for some years now. That is the reality of it.

It is their territory. Occupied by Russia. Ilegally. Period.

It is managed by Russia so it is Russia, now. The same way Ireland one day was administered from London and now is not (excl. Northern Ireland). The rest is emotional talk.

Re: Is Russia going to war with Ukraine and other questions

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I can't understand how some smart people still sympathize Russia and say it acts only for defense. Russia has made the first annexation in Europe since WW2 and effectively control another part of Ukraine. Right now it looks like Russian logic is that every free person in the world is a potential threat to Russia. Because threat is anything that you don't control.

Did the people of Crimea want to be in Russia or the Ukraine?

Does "what the people of Crimea wanted" change whether or not Russia annexed the territory against the wishes of the current owners of the territory and against international law that Russia claims to respect?
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