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Hernando de Soto: The Destruction of Economic Facts

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> The importance of economic facts may not be obvious to Americans. "What does the fish know about the water in which it swims?" asked Albert Einstein. Interesting how that water and fish story repeats itself...

It is a ridiculous analogy tho'. What do humans know about the air we breathe? Well quite a lot actually. What do humans know about the ground we walk on? Ditto.

And what did we know about air before the 1500s or so - for the last 50 millennia?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a ridiculous analogy tho'. What do humans know about the air we breathe? Well quite a lot actually. What do humans know about the ground we walk on? Ditto.

And what did we know about air before the 1500s or so - for the last 50 millennia?

Without wanting to sound harsh, but we knew it existed and that one could not live without it.

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Not directly related to the article, but something I've been thinking about. In times past, we had a confusion between politics and church. The pope had a lot of weight to throw around, kings had an on-again, off-again relationship with him. Politics and state were intermingled, and the suggestion it didn't was either laughed at, or someone would try to kill you. Then we had a series of social revolutions that create…

In the case of the banks, their regulation by the state is a recent phenomenon, as is fiat money itself. So we can look at what happened before when banks were more independent. I'm no expert on the subject, but it doesn't seem all that attractive - as the article mentions, crashes and panics were a regular feature back then.

we can look at what happened before when banks were more independent

Don't confuse correlation with causation. I think de Soto makes it clear that it wasn't the banks per se that caused friction back in the old days, but rather the lack of comprehensive, accurate, and accessible records.

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The "shadow markets" in this article reminded me of the "shadow systems" we often run into in the business intelligence space. Except instead of rouge, hidden, and prone to error spreadsheets it's rouge markets. Because the logic is effecively hidden dishonest individuals can use their shadow spreadsheets to massage their numbers into an up and to the right shape. The same potential for abuse and accident exists in shadow markets but with the global economy on the line. Terrifying thought!

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Someone I talked to once said that its time to get rid of rating agencies and replace them with open source rating systems. If we did this, companies could post their own rating and it could be verified by anyone who was interested in them. In addition, people with very specific requirements (for whom the regular ratings don't work) could tweak the systems as needed.

I'm skeptical about this working since rating agencies should, in addition to following formulaic rules, look for company specific pieces of information that would affect the rating, but its an interesting idea.

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> The importance of economic facts may not be obvious to Americans. "What does the fish know about the water in which it swims?" asked Albert Einstein. Interesting how that water and fish story repeats itself...

Is it really true that its not obvious to Americans? I think anyone even slightly tuned in to whats going on realizes that a lot of the problems now are based on a lack of proper information.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a ridiculous analogy tho'. What do humans know about the air we breathe? Well quite a lot actually. What do humans know about the ground we walk on? Ditto.

And what did we know about air before the 1500s or so - for the last 50 millennia?

From studying sediments and vegetation - quite a lot actually.
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