I need something like this but open-source so I can run it locally...
I am building https://www.jigdev.com which runs observable hq as a canvas locally. It's not open source as of now but there'll be a always free version for it.
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#22This is incredibly useful, a lot of my peers will certainly love it for quick prototyping data manipulation and exploration. I know I will.
This is a very clever/usable implementation of flow-based programming (FBP), which is dear to many people's heart in HN and out.
FBP matches very easily the mental model of data flow and calls for quick mouse- or touch-based manipulation. Coming up with a usable UX for such paradigm is not trivial though, and your project seems on a good track.
I can only encourage you to take the (harsh) criticism in this comments' section with the necessary distance, and keep working on the project, because it's very good! Well done!
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#23This site's negativity/nit picking is sometimes incredible. This is an incredibly cool product that is by their own words "very alpha" and people jump to "OMG i know what hijacking is so I'll point it out" for attention. It's kind of a tired trope. This is obviously not an intentional hacking of users but rather a quite harmless bug in the implementation of an undo/permalinking feature. Great job to the devs and I ho…
Warning people that they won't be able to get back to this site is not an overreaction.
FWIW: In every desktop browser I've used and in Safari on iOS, long pressing the back button for a few seconds will bring up a list of recent history and allow you to get back when the button is hijacked by a page.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Warning people that they won't be able to get back to this site is not an overreaction.
> they won't be able to get back to this site I hate it when sites break the back button, but that's really not the same thing
I'm picturing users instantaneously teleported to some mythical labyrinth where they're forced to fight their way back to Hacker News.
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#25This site's negativity/nit picking is sometimes incredible. This is an incredibly cool product that is by their own words "very alpha" and people jump to "OMG i know what hijacking is so I'll point it out" for attention. It's kind of a tired trope. This is obviously not an intentional hacking of users but rather a quite harmless bug in the implementation of an undo/permalinking feature. Great job to the devs and I ho…
I‘m sorry my comment raised these feelings. People share their projects on HN bc they want feedback. I think it’s a rude thing to hijack the back button and a lot of people seem to share that sentiment. Rude behavior can be unintentional and even well intended, but the perception to others is just not great. I would consider this valuable feedback - it’s better to get it here and fix the bug/misbehavior than keeping it even longer.
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#26Tried to play around with some JSX but unfortunately it keeps throwing the error that React is not defined.
Looks cool though!
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#27Doesn't seem to work on Firefox, had to switch to Chrome for testing it, the new normal.
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#28Please don’t prevent people from leaving your site using browser navigation. It’s impossible to get back to hackernews by swiping back on iOS.
> Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful.
Given that this isn’t “Show HN”, please don’t comment about this.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Warning people that they won't be able to get back to this site is not an overreaction.
FWIW: In every desktop browser I've used and in Safari on iOS, long pressing the back button for a few seconds will bring up a list of recent history and allow you to get back when the button is hijacked by a page.
I think I've automatically double-clicked the back button every back-button click since the back button could be hijacked, like years ago. Same with iOS. I try to use my iPhone less, so I uninstalled all apps, and access everything through Safari. It's the absolutely worst experience and I love it. Reddit is practically unusable unless you visit the `www.` site, but by far the worst thing is visiting a site that hijacks the back button.
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#30This site's negativity/nit picking is sometimes incredible. This is an incredibly cool product that is by their own words "very alpha" and people jump to "OMG i know what hijacking is so I'll point it out" for attention. It's kind of a tired trope. This is obviously not an intentional hacking of users but rather a quite harmless bug in the implementation of an undo/permalinking feature. Great job to the devs and I ho…
Warning people that they won't be able to get back to this site is not an overreaction.
Not to condone but I never rely on back button when using references in context of some longer material I am currently reading. I always right click and open in new window. So to me the problem mostly mute.