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Do you think anyone will expatriate rather than pay a wealth tax?
There is an expatriation tax for people leaving the US. It is one of the more clear cut wealth taxes that we have in the US.
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#32In the United States, the measures we use for income inequality are outrageously flawed In almost all measures of the Gini coefficient two significant flaws exist: 1. Incomes are counted on a pre-tax basis 2. Incomes are counted on a pre-government transfers basis The consequence of this is that income inequality appears to be increasing _regardless_ of the level of social subsidies and redistribution. When you corre…
The Economist article concludes that the rich are indeed, getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. That's the heart of OP's article.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think anyone will expatriate rather than pay a wealth tax?
Few. And those that do are individually expendable. The businesses will stay.
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#34In the United States, the measures we use for income inequality are outrageously flawed In almost all measures of the Gini coefficient two significant flaws exist: 1. Incomes are counted on a pre-tax basis 2. Incomes are counted on a pre-government transfers basis The consequence of this is that income inequality appears to be increasing _regardless_ of the level of social subsidies and redistribution. When you corre…
It just suggests that inequality is growing at a slower rate than the raw numbers suggest. The most generously adjusted estimates show a doubling of adjusted income for the 1% over the past few decades rather than the higher multiples that we are used to hearing about.
Is it really good news that no matter how you try to tweak the numbers, the income gap is growing?
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#35I think there is also another factor that plays a role in the de-democratization of wealth. In the olden days you could be the biggest fish in your pond, but as that pond grows it's becoming more and more a winner takes all ocean.
> As more occupations become scalable, jobs that were previously stable are becoming risky. Telehealth enables superstar doctors to serve customers in markets that were previously inaccessible to them. Connected fitness devices like Peloton allow superstar instructors to serve thousands of customers at a time, making the average instructor in your local gym redundant. The same dynamic applies to many other service and knowledge jobs.
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#36What's the solution then?
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#37My opinion about current wealth inequality , which I'm sure the entire world doesn't give a flying fuck about, so I started my own blog based on the comment so I can talk to myself like a loon in a dunce cap sitting alone in my little corner of the internet like the bad child most of the world seems hellbent on viewing me as: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22028732
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#38My opinion about current wealth inequality , which I'm sure the entire world doesn't give a flying fuck about, so I started my own blog based on the comment so I can talk to myself like a loon in a dunce cap sitting alone in my little corner of the internet like the bad child most of the world seems hellbent on viewing me as: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22028732
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#39A lot of people who are just as smart and motived as Elon Musk or Steve Jobs will never be able to start their own companies and get rich. Because they have family obligations that take priority. Because they live outside high-income countries. Because they have no access to support network, so when they fail, they fall all the way to bottom. Because they may have made a crippling mistake in their pasts that now prev…
>Because they have family obligations that take priority
This is on you. If your serious about it you should see this coming. Elons familial situation isn't exactly all flowers and roses. A lot of my friends who managed to start successful business started yong precisely because they saw this coming and new it would be difficult to do with a family. I would argue the exception is if you have parents who are sick or need heavy financial support or whatever. If this is the case, would be a fair argument in favor of being rich (or at least middle class) helps you get rich.
>Because they live outside high-income countries
I would argue this goes both ways. If anything a lot of countries are trying to pile into developing countries now cause that's where the growth is. Similarly I used to work in hk where living costs are absurd. Then I was relocated to China and after a while I quite my job to try my own thing because it was affordable to take the risk. You could live decently by being frugal with some savings and the benefit is still vastly in favor of being an owner than an employee. Access to education might be a differentiator but so many things are available for free online now.
>Because they have no access to support network, so when they fail, they fall all the way to bottom
I think this is related to two somewhat. It's also totally feasible to position yourself so that even if you fail you can still land on your feet, you just have to be conscious of it.
>Because they may have made a crippling mistake in their pasts that now prevents them from reaching their full potential
Again this is the same for everyone and is on you personally. Don't do anything stupid.
But like I said, I generally agree that being rich or middle class definitely helps you become rich, but if you can go on and on about all these reasons your probably want to adjust your mindset as well
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adjusted for inflation , 102k in 1980 was worth almost 270k in 2010. Using this calculator which seems to be using buying power instead of actual inflation. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
I am going to assume the original comment-or simply didn't think about inflation (common mistake...which is further understandable since the graphic doesn't make it obvious whether or not it is nominal dollars or adjusted dollars). So in that spirit, here is another resource which talks about minimum wage and even included an adjusted minimum wage graph within: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/21/politics/minimum-wage-inf…
Except for the part where it says "Median family wealth, in 2018 dollars"?