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You can't meditate on that thought. Keep the search :)
I appreciate that you’re trying to help, but I’ve been searching for a long time and it only makes me feel worse.
Look into Ramana Maharishi
Anxiety is in your body, not your mind
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#222Here is an overview of the state of the art in GAD: TL;DR Tofisopam appears to be the ideal long term anxiety medication except it's understudied despite being old, which is a real shame. Pregabalin is likely the second best candidate however some people reports horrible anecdotes with it (brain breaker) As always the best blog about the topic is from Scott Alexander: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/13/things-that…
"While ADHD and depression have relatively safe and effective medications" I don't think administrating a neurotoxic agent like Vyvanse to be safe, in that regard even coke is effective for ADHD, but all those who takes stimulants chronically, will end up regretting it one day.
Can you back up your claims?
Yes dextroamphetamine like all reuptake inhibitors have a neurotoxic risk.
First of all I believe that long term studies does not shows neurotoxic harm.
(but yeah are there studies that span more than 3 years?)
Secondly stimulants are neurotrophic (promote neuron growth) and has been shown to fix abnormalities on ADHD brains.
To my knowledge neurotoxity is not an issue however stimulants loose their effectiveness after 2 years in the only more than 2 years study (are there been newer ones since then?) however this study contradict the perceived effectiveness that doctors and patients reports after two years. This paradox is a very poor state of knowledge and more research is really needed.
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If there's something sacred to me it's music (or harmony). It's weird because it's not as foundational as smell or vision but it revives my soul like nothing else. That's the closest substitute to drug I know of. I have no idea why our emotions are so tangled with it and how comes it can untie knots in our minds like this.
That’s exactly why the Pythagoreans were obsessed with music! An arcane text which I highly recommend for those curious is The Manual of Harmonics by Nichomacus the Pythagorean. It’s a series of ancient lectures which dives into why the Pythagoreans were obsessed with how numerical the musical scales are.
Did pythagoreans have notions of chromatic scales ? I worry that without it you're losing a huge emotional space. I'll look your book at once.
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I wonder if that is why we like music. We can experience emotions without worrying that they are permanent or need to be resolved.
If there's something sacred to me it's music (or harmony). It's weird because it's not as foundational as smell or vision but it revives my soul like nothing else. That's the closest substitute to drug I know of. I have no idea why our emotions are so tangled with it and how comes it can untie knots in our minds like this.
> The inexpressible depth of all music, by virtue of which it floats past us as a paradise quite familiar and yet eternally remote, and is so easy to understand and yet so inexplicable, is due to the fact that it reproduces all the emotions of our innermost being, but entirely without reality and remote from its pain.
Schopenhauer, the father of philosophical pessimism, would agree with you: he thought of music as one of the few pure respites from the suffering of the world.
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#227I noticed as young adult that I didn’t really worry or consciously stress, but my body had somewhat predictable reactions to situations that I would realize, in hindsight, were highly stressful. Those physical reactions sucked, and as they got worse over time, it really concerned me. At some point I was encouraged to go to CBT, which I did, but honestly it made things worse. I became hyper aware of how anxious I was…
Microdose mushrooms. Seems silly but you can break your thought patterns by disconnecting your brain from well trodden paths. I think Michael Pollan is onto something
This makes me curious, can you elaborate a bit please? How exactly would it work on anxiety? Does taking stuff produce a temporary relief or does it change the structure of your brain for a longer period? There is definitely things we still don't know about this, and it seems promising.
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That’s exactly why the Pythagoreans were obsessed with music! An arcane text which I highly recommend for those curious is The Manual of Harmonics by Nichomacus the Pythagorean. It’s a series of ancient lectures which dives into why the Pythagoreans were obsessed with how numerical the musical scales are.
Did pythagoreans have notions of chromatic scales ? I worry that without it you're losing a huge emotional space. I'll look your book at once.
He speaks profusely about tetrachords. I believe his best examination of the chromatic scale is in chapter 12.
I have a version translated and commentated upon by Flora R. Levin which provides exquisite anthropological background of how the ancient Greeks thought of music and provides context for what amounts to as lectures given by Nichomachus.
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> Normal muscle relaxants aren't as effective for anxiety as Valium because they don't have any action on the central nervous system, just the neuromuscular mechanisms. Valium does much more than simply relax muscles. It affects GABA throughout the whole body. Thanks for clarifying on this. A lot of people seem to think it's okay to just down-vote without providing some sort of counterpoint. I might be naive on a top…
Agreed. I'm of the stance that I only downvote trolling or absurd claims without any form of supporting details. Otherwise, I prefer to take the route of elaborating/correcting/questioning/etc even if I'm not an expert on the subject because then it at least fosters a discussion and sets up a path for shorter corrective comments from those that don't have the time/motivation/energy to respond in more detail.
I rarely make the mistake of speaking with certainty about something I'm not sure of, so I guess the down votes were warranted. But I am surprised that a tenured professor at an elite university would be so wrong in his area of expertise. A cursory googling shows that there has been some decent research on muscle relaxation as a mechanism to reduce anxiety, though I concede that Diazepam probably has higher order effects that compound is efficacy:
https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=m...