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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by _carbyau_ »

Marsymars wrote: post #635
jessriedel wrote: post #620

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The Samsung boatware is outrageous, but LG's was also pretty bad. The reason I got an LG, which I've been mostly happy with, is that they offered an Android One certified model (the LG G7 One) that came with nearly stock Android. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One

Sadly, the Android One program looks to be nearly dead. G7 One owner, don’t want a larger phone, so looks like the Pixel line is the only remaining option for my next phone.

I ended up with a Nokia 7.2. It worked fine until an Android OS update.

Now it works mostly fine but some minor issues regarding Adaptive Brightness, Bluetooth laziness and camera not saving pictures when running from locked screen. Maybe these can be fixed with app-data wipe or permissions fiddling, but I can't be bothered as they impact me little.

But Nokia seems to keep going with Android One. I will end up buying another at this rate.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by _carbyau_ »

unethical_ban wrote: post #591

I can only think of a few reasons that LG couldn't make it, and none of them are enough to sink a brand: * Lack of updates * Occasionally non-flagship hardware * That Nexus issue many years ago Their UI is better than Samsung. They're less intrusive than samsung. Their flagships are usually pretty good and come at good discounts soon after release. I have an S21 now, and the number of bloatware samsung apps has me wa…

I have Nokia, where does that fit in the brand spaces?

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by _carbyau_ »

deergomoo wrote: post #388
underwater wrote: post #241

The mobile phone ecosystem is sick, and I don't see it getting better. The fact that there is not a third choice is maddening. Even in the worst parts of the Microsoft era we had Apple as the underdog. Apple products had issues, but Apple die-hards at least could rest easy knowing that they were buying into a company who stood for something. In the mobile space the underdog is Google; a company who sees dealing with…

> The fact that there is not a third choice is maddening Even more so because Windows Phone was actually a pretty nice OS with some really interesting ideas. It just came far too late.

And locked to one manufacturer really.

You would have thought they'd learn from how they won the desktop space...

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by _carbyau_ »

asah wrote: post #447
mdiesel wrote: post #387

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+1 for OnePlus. I started years back on the 2, upgraded more recently to the 6T. Will take a lot of convincing for me to even think about anyone else. Same experience though, people have either heard of it and rave about it, or ask who makes it.

serious q: OnePlus looks *great* but I'm concerned about the Chinese government and the de facto cyberwar with the US. Example: I have security sensitive US clients, and I'd be concerned that (in the future, let alone present) I'd be labeled a security risk for carrying a "chinese cellphone." How do you mitigate this concern? (serious replies only please)

I don't care for a flagship phone. I ended up with a Nokia.

While I assume they have it manufactured in China like Apple and the rest of the world it seems, I hope their quality assurance is Europe based.

Honestly though, I will watch the answers here.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by boring_twenties »

lwelyk wrote: post #645
jcronenberg wrote: post #312

What I find most sad about this is that LG appears to be the only manufacturer who makes phones with both wireless charging and a headphone jack. Somehow these features seem to contradict themselfs for other manufacturers. Wireless charging is seen as a premium feature, while headphone jack is seen as a budget feature. I unfortunately have gotten so used to both that I don't want to give them up. I love my wired head…

Yeah, I unfortunately finally gave up the headphone jack. My phone broke and I couldn't find a good phone that had wireless charging, a headphone jack and a micro SD card slot. I went with the S20 FE since it had 2 of them. The budget galaxys seem have headphone and mcicro sd but not wireless charging. I almost bought an old S10 since that's the last galaxy with all three, but figured since it'd be losing update supp…

I use a NextDrive SpectraX USB-C DAC/AMP with my Android phones, and am pretty satisfied.

(I still demand and sometimes use the built-in headphone jack, mind you. The SpectraX obviously sounds better than that, though.)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by oriolid »

pjmlp wrote: post #689
oriolid wrote: post #684

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It's a name that's sometimes used for AudioTrack, AudioRecord and related classes under android.media. Does that collection have an official name? I would also suggest that you learn some manners.

Well, as someone with Android development experience I never saw it mentioned like that anywhere.

I guess this means you don't have any idea about the actual latency difference. It's okay to not know things, you don't have to be a jerk about it.

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Post by igravious »

azurezyq wrote: post #260
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #158

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Huawei is basically dead as a consumer brand after USA and EU went after them [0]. They've re-branded most of their consumer stuff as Xiaomi. [0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-co...

I don't think EU ever targeted Huawei's consumer business. It's only the US for this exact one.

That's because the EU does not see China as a threat to its geopolitical and economic hegemony the way the US does.

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Post by wildfire »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #491
eertami wrote: post #470

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>In the mobile space the underdog is Google Doesn't Android have 70% market share? I don't follow how they're the underdog, surely they're more like Microsoft in this comparison.

Depends on how you slice the market. Android powers 70% of the phones on the market, but iOS makes 50%+ of the profit.

I've seen this bandied around quite a lot (iOS being more profitable).

The only source I've seen cited for this comes from 2012 (https://www.pcworld.com/article/253335/ios_more_profitable_f...) and relates to Google getting more profit from iOS device users than Android device users.

Do you have anything from the last year or two? Or are you basing your comment on the article from 2012?

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Post by camhart »

shaicoleman wrote: post #574
camhart wrote: post #358

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Xiaomi's battery management (aggressively killing apps) is horrendous.

Here's a guide how to fix it: https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi

I appreciate what dkma does--but the steps are still a major annoyance for customers who typically blame the app developer.

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Post by simfoo »

jessriedel wrote: post #621
simfoo wrote: post #428

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Samsung S10e has both. Best smartphone I ever owned (once you got rid of all the crapware using ADB).

Are there any services that will strip off bloatware using ADB for you? Would be happy to pay $100 for it to just reliably work out of the box then spend a bunch of time reading forums and worrying that something will break.

I have a list of packages that can be safely removed from modern Samsung phones (I'm not missing anything at least, updates still work). Email me at @imap.cc if you're interested
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